Running Two TT into one phono input, best options?


I am pretty sure I have broached this subject before, heck I may have even made a similar thread in the past.

But here is my quandary.

I have three TT but only two input on my phono.

I really do NOT want to plug/unplug every time I want to use one that is not plugged in atm.

So is there any good option for very low level switching out there?

My quick Google searching brought up a USA company called Decware that make passive preamps and switch boxes. What caught my eye was that they specifically have an option to configure a unit as low level tonearm input instead of line level.
Which sounds perfect to my ears, maybe....

www.decware.com.

Anyone ever used one of these or have other options or solutions?
Thanks and stay safe.
128x128uberwaltz
Slaw
I did think about that but I also thought that was likely to be the worst solution for signal loss/hum.

But I guess it is worth a try for sure.

weh51nc
Sorry I should have been clearer, there are NO SPARE inputs left on my amp and I really want to use the present phono for all TT if possible.
High grade switch in a box with high grade RCA jacks. Goldpoint switch, or better. etc.

There will be degradation from the extra cable, switch and RCA jacks on the given box, on the desired turntable, vs the one not connected by the switch.

The y splitter is probably among the worst sounding. as the second ’leg’, which runs back to the unused turntable, will inject notable amounts of unwanted and almost ’floating’ LCR residuals, as noise.... into the tiny phono signal and make a mess out of it.

As an analogy, think of a racing vehicle on the track, with really good capacity to get around the track, and be competitive. This is your turntable, the one being listened to. Then add two or three 20 foot composite rods that stick out of it and weigh about 250lb each (some unspecified flubbery-floppy great mass), and float above the ground (at various angles, like some really big porcupine quills) and are moved about as the car moves around on the track. This is the shut down and not listened to but still connected turntable. Imagine how this fluttery, discombobulated, flexible and self resonant mass, will heave the car about, and totally ruin it’s capacity to get around the track. It will get around the track, sure, but it will be notably compromised. That is what a parallel connected but not used turntable lines, connected via a y-splitter bit of wiring -- will do do the tiny phono signal on the ’desired to be listened to’ turntable.

With the switch, that extra noise injection is all neatly separated, but some can still come in via the separate turntable ground, unless even that is made independent via three switched aspects, not two. (isolate the positive, negative and the independent ground wires of the two turntables via a three contact switch, not the normal two.
Actually..what is required in this passive arrangement...is a 5 point switch. Neg-pos for each channel and the ground as well. So the switch has to be a 5 contacts switched’ kind of arrangement. Everything lifted and separated. That darned phono signal is so small, it is easily affected by any connectivity in any way. Just like trying to measure micro signals in a ted bed set up. All this switching and/or separation would be the norm. Not even a question. It is simply done as it is known that this would be a serious and critical issue.  This turntable connectivity issue...is no less critical.

You’re looking at about $200, or more, to get it done right (parts cost alone, never mind the build). At least, as right as can be, relatively speaking.
Chak
I can find plenty of line level input switchers but as I know and Teo points out it is those tiny little signals we are dealing with that are the problem and oh so easily degraded because such low levels.

And I do not want to be trying endless solutions rather get it right first time, hence this thread.
So far the only unit I have seen that specifically states for low level tonearm use is the Decware unit although as Solypsa says it would be interesting to know just what they changed to make it "low level" compliant.

I may just send them an email first.
this is an example of a ’half lifted’ signal switching box. It is not preferred for phono switching. All inputs and outputs share their ground noise as a signal injection. Fairly unnoticeable for line level signals but probably noticeable for phono signal levels.

In proper phono use, the signal is balanced and the negative floats and the ground is separate and involves shielding as a concept and execution.

Some cartridges ground the negative, which is..not perfect, as concepts and execution goes. Many a cheap MM is done this way. Just to avoid hum issues in common cheap design, when the given cart is applied in a given system.

Again, the minimum of a four point switch and possibly a 5 point switch. Four and six point switches are widely available, five would be rare. Buy the six and don't use the one extra, easy-peasy. Goldpoint makes these, as do others.

Then the switch box itself, sheer size and mass can get into ground noise and ground noise injection problems.