Mat for Rega P10


I decided to start this discussion to hear different experiences from Rega RP10 and P10 users. I know Rega does not suggest replacing their own, supplied with turntable, mat as doing so can degrade the sound but I have to say that I am loyal opposition to that concept, looking for replacement ASAP.

I know Framer recommended the Stein Music The Perfect Interface Carbon mat but $625 for mat is quite steep I think. Even the cheapest one is $250 and I do not consider It a bargain. 

Does anybody here use either of those two mats and can share some insight as to why they are so expensive and if they really make that much of a difference?

arturgorniak
One more thing that I would like to add, the Herbie's website is a bit misleading in regards to their Grungebuster mat.  Last week I called their office and spoke with Robert regarding my P10 with its white ceramic platter.  He recommended the Way Excellent II mat even though the description of Grungebuster mat on their website says it's for ceramic platters.  I told him that I would order both mats and return one or both depending on how they compared to my other mats.  It turns out he was right on with his recommendation of the Way Excellent II mat.  The sound quality difference between all mats that I tried was easily heard in my system.  I used tracks off  Doug MacLeod's "There's A Time" 45rpm on the Reference Recording label for my comparison.  I'm glad I found this thread on Rega mats because I upgraded the SQ significantly from my TT for only $60.  
smatsui-forgot to thank you for introducing me to Herbie’s mat. I wouldn’t have done the research and would still be unhappy with the mat. I really am thrilled with it’s solid feel without being too heavy and complete lack of any issue changing records.

i agree with your mat analysis 100%. We’ll see if I can return the TEAC..

I would recommend taking a look at the Tru lift tonearm lifter. Can’t believe I lived without it for the +\- 20 years I’ve been using a manual table.
@sokogear, I'll take a look at the Tru Lift tonearm lifter.  Thanks for the recommendation!  I'm returning the Teac and Grungebuster mats.

@arturgorniak, I recommend that you try Herbie's Way Excellent II mat (2mm thick).  The SQ improvement over the Teac is very significant.  Since sokogear and I have both mats and we came to the same conclusion in two different systems, I'd be surprised if you don't agree.  The only thing that you have to lose is return shipping if you don't like it.
You're lucky you can can return the TEAC @smatsui....the guy I bought it from said he doesn't accept returns on accessories. And I have spent a few thousand with him!

The people at Integrity HiFi up in Canada who make the Tru Lift are really nice (Canadians, eh) super helpful with setting it up if you need help (I did, although if I watched their video I probably wouldn't have). The cool thing is that it doesn't touch any part of the table whatsoever, as the model you'd need is specifically made for the P8/P10.

If you know anybody who wants the TEAC/Washi, I'll sell it to them for $20+ shipping. I have 3 extra mats now (Rega, VPI and Washi) and don't need them.....

Just curious, what kind of cartridge are you using with your P10?
@sokogear,
Sorry I didn't see the 2nd page of this thread or I would have responded sooner.  I bought my Teac mat off Amazon (Prime) so it was no cost to return.  I was wondering how your Tru Lift could mount to the P8 but now you say they have a specially designed Lift for P8/P10 owners.  That's good to know.  I'm using the Apheta 3 cartridge.  I had a Apheta 2 on the RP10 and my dealer gave me a really good deal to trade up after 4 years of owning it.  I think the new stylus on the Apheta 3 along with the improvements Rega made to the tolerances of the bearing in the new tonearm have made the P10 much better in terms of its tracking ability.  Records that I thought were bad pressings because I heard distortion with my RP10 now track perfectly with my P10.  Thanks for the info on the Tru Lift.