Phonostage, preamp or amp?


Hi folks,

My system is in occasional (once every month or two) rotation with a few different speakers and SS amps I have accumulated.

I have been wanting to try tubes for a while and was wondering where to start.

Which component (Phonostage, preamp or amp) in general, would:
  • Sonically produce the most noticeable tube effect/experience?
  • Require more maintenance?
  • Have greater component matching requirements (gain, impedance, etc.)?
  • Be the most logical to begin with? 

I listen to mostly jazz, classical and some rock.

Speakers:  Magnepan LRS, KEF LS50s, B&W Matrix 801 S2s, Ologe 5 and Harbeth SHL5+40s.
Amps: Ampzilla 2000 2nd Edition monos, Michael Yee Audio PA-1 and a Forte 1A (which I can't find an owners manual or specs for anywhere!)

Thanks!
hleeid
what are your sources?

since you are neck high in ss amps i would say just try a tube linestage
Which component (Phonostage, preamp or amp) in general, would:


Doesn’t work that way. There’s no correlation between these components and the "most noticeable tube effect/experience". In fact, the better the tube component the less it makes you even think its a "tube effect/experience".  

Think of it this way. Would you say, "I want the most noticeable transistor effect/experience"? And then, "Will I get that from a phono stage, preamp or amp"? Or how about, "I want the most noticeable digital effect/experience" should I buy a DAC, or streamer? Crazy questions!

Since you swap speakers, and considering what speakers you have, I would avoid a tube amp. Not that a tube amp wouldn’t sound better, but there’d be problems driving some of your speakers. Problems you won’t have with a preamp or phono stage.

Advantages of tubes are of course they sound better. Assuming you buy on the basis of sound quality and not "most noticeable tube effect/experience". If you buy something deliberately trying to add some coloration all bets are off. But if you go looking for the best you can find (in your budget) then it will, almost by definition, be an improvement over solid state. Keep this in mind in case of the odd chance you get something worse.

So you would try a phono stage or preamp. In terms of matching, you don’t mention your cartridge which is the one thing you need to know. Because if you have MM its easy, but if you have MC then you need to know output. Lower the output the harder it becomes to find a good match. The rap on tube phono stages is noise. Not a problem with a good medium or high output MC, but might drive you crazy if yours is .2mV or something like that.

Put it all together, the preamp is the safest bet of your three options.

But that’s just the logical choice. You find any of them strikes your fancy, go for it.
Appreciate the advice!
Ok. Makes sense to go with a tube preamp.

My sources right now are laptop > temporary DAC (Fostex HPA8) > Bryston BP26 preamp.

I also just got my first turntable. It's a Rega RP8 fitted with an Exact MM. I have a Denon DL 103 MC as well and am looking into cartridges. Right now I am using a Vincent PHO until I figure out which phonestage to go with.

Any suggestions for a tube preamp new or used for about 2k?
Should I be looking to spend a little more?
In my experience the phono preamp is where the rubber meets the road. That would be a great start with tube gear!