What speakers have best bass for hip hop, and rock

The old version of Realistic Mach ones will Rock hard.

This is very interesting, I have to check out the subs, and also legacy. The Atc is a new idea. Are they widely available here? Do you need a sub with them?

I don't agree with all the advices about getting a lot of bass and ditto subwofers. Rap, rock and pop are often over-compressed produced music that need a system that can portrait this bad production as a gestalt of music and not as a piece of compressed sound. And the most important quality in this genre, in my opinion, is the ability to present the piece of music, wether rap or rock, with pace, rythme and timing (PRaT). Modern music is firstmost rhythmical. As long as your music system get this right, rap is funky! A big system with a lot of bass can also be slow and uninteresting. The positive side of having a system that gets PRaT right is that also jazz and classical music is involving.

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Musicophile: good thing about a sub is you can turn it down and make "a lot of bass" go away. i've never liked subs much myself. they always sounded/felt like too much. it seems subs have changed alot since i formed my opinions on them many years ago. todays subs can be ultra fast/tight and still have good slam. a good modern sub(s) can be blended into a system very nicely now-a-days. "good subs" aren't cheap but they really can help if yor're looking for a little more down low. the set-up software is key as is taking the time to set it up. a sub will do anything you want it to...and don't want it to. your choice.

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