High end Class D amps?


Just an observation and a question. Are there 'high end' Class D amps out there that are just as good as Class A, A/B amps? I realize that's a sensitive question to some and I mean no disrespect---but whenever I see others' hifi systems on social media, all of the amps are A or A/B. There's always Pass, McIntosh, Moon, Luxman, Accuphase, etc. Where are the Class Ds? For folks out there that want more power for less efficient speakers and can't afford the uber expensive Class As, A/Bs, what is there to choose from that's close to those brands? Thanks
bluorion
Hello,
Stereo Elleven sells Jeff Rowland. Very nice amps. Not sure on your budget. Someone mentioned the NAD M33. NAD under rates their power so you should be good to go. The M33 is hard to find right now. If you cannot locate one locally or if you are in the Chicago area. https://holmaudio.com/nad-electronics/
I got a pair of Jamo 707i speakers that are 4 ohms and seemingly a bit difficult to drive.  i tried a few integrated options that just didn't sound great.  I got the Crown XLS 1002 amp and really liked it and felt like all the criticism was misplaced about the Class D bandwagon.  I think it sounds decent with that speaker.  However, I got a pair of Tekton Lores and they really exposed the crown.  It is loud and clear etc but very very linear.  when I switched up the xls 1002 with a nearly 20 year old class A - Acurus M100 i could definitely hear a distinct difference with the more open soundstage.  I just purchased and hooked up a brand new parasound 2250 v2 A/B and it sounds great but to be honest i am struggling to hear much difference between the 20 year old Acurus M100 and the parasound.  The XLS 1002 was absolutely "good enough" until I realized it wasn't. 
i had not heard class d that i thought could equal class a/b until i bought a devialet unit, which sounds really excellent

devialet calls what they do a 'hybrid', using a regular class a section to slave the class d section - i am not technically equipped to understand or describe that in detail but i can say it makes no apologies to the best class a/b amplification i have ... hegel, naim, audiosector, primare etc etc
This is a smoke screen, they are still "basically" the same, with the same glaring problem, upper mid/highs phase shift, because of the "switching frequency noise filter" on the speaker outputs.
This statement is false- they are not 'basically' the same at all.


Bruno Putzeys has shown that you can run enough feedback in a class D amp that it can correct for phase shift at high frequencies that would otherwise be the result of limited bandwidth. To do this the amp has to have more than 35dB of feedback. Any less and the phase shift will show up. In this way the bandwidth of the amp can be limited to 20KHz and yet no phase shift in the the audio band. Normally you need lots of bandwidth (usually 10x the frequency of concern) to prevent phase shift.


With traditional solid state and tube amps, this much feedback would likely result in oscillation due to phase margin issues. A class D amp can take advantage of this because the oscillation is welcomed- and is used as the switching frequency. This type of class D amp is known as 'self-oscillating'. The pulse of the switching frequency is then converted to a triangle wave, and compared to the input signal to create Pulse Width Modulation (PWM) for signal encoding. Its a neat trick- and then you don't have any of the issues described in the quote above. 
Glad someone mentioned Devialet. Quite a package with crystal clear audiophile sound.  I ended up with pass xa30.8 to take things up a notch slightly, especially since my speakers will never have custom matching from devialet, but very impressive and elegant device.