The NAD M33 will cancel your complaints about Class D


There are many reasons to like one type of sound over another. Even among what are considered very good amplifiers there’s a broad range of tastes and preferences among audiophiles. Just ask a SET aficionado!

However, no class is more maligned, inappropriately, than Class D. To hear some regulars tell it, Class D sound will thin your blood, make your teeth fall out and ruin your enjoyment of just about everything because it sounds so (fill in a lot of tropes from the 1980’s here).

I’ve been listening to NAD’s prior collaboration with Bruno Putzy and I can tell with some confidence that none of those tired old tropes apply. For reasons related much more to tonal balance than anything else, I’m sticking with Class A/B in my main system, but with the introduction of the next gen Anthem AVR receivers and the NAD M33 I may be making the switch back to class D.

You don’t have to like the M33 or the Anthem’s but can we at least agree that it’s time to retire the old guard of reasons not to buy Class D? Lets lay those poor phantoms to rest.
erik_squires
kw6: " Unless you only listen to analog master tapes on a reel to reel quit looking for a straight wire with gain. You need some 2nd order harmonics!😆"

Hello kw6,

      I noticed you posted the exact same comment on an older class D thread that's still active on 11/23/20.  Here's a link and your comment along with a very good reply from @atmasphere are toward the bottom of this link:
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/class-d-technology?page=11

     Here's a copy of atmasphere's reply just for convenience and to refresh your memory:


atmasphere
8,933 posts
11-23-2020 11:07am
Bottom line is until we can get rid of the nasty 3rd harmonic distortion in class d our ears will always prefer the cozy 2nd harmonics that tubes generate
@kw6 Actually the human ear/brain system treats the 3rd harmonic the same as it does the 2nd, in that its relatively inaudible and adds to a bit of what audiophiles call 'bloom', 'warmth' and the like. The other odd ordered harmonics are not so benign!

     Did the initial response from atmasphere, who is a long time member here along with being the owner and amp designer of the highly respected tube amplifier manufacturing company Atma-Sphere, not sufficiently answer your question? It seems to me that your initial question has been clearly and fully answered.  Do you disagree?
     Or is there another reason you seem intent on spreading disinformation concerning class D amplification?  Would you like to clarify why you're repeatedly asking this same question on at least 2 class D threads here on Audiogon and implying there's a fundamental problem with class D technology? 
     Would further research reveal even more evidence of your false implications on Audiogon and possibly other online audio forums?
     I just happened to discover this instance of your apparent class D subpterfuge  because I was participating on both of these threads simultaneously.

Thank you,
    Tim
Hey Tim,

I guess you are the resident fact checker! 🙊
I still own a Nad 390ccd all in one with Bluos board to use in summer time as can’t use my tube amps too hot. The Nad is detailed but boring/flat doesn’t make me want to listen to music for long time. I was excited to read newest tech Purifi. As you know all class D manufacturers say sounds like a Triode but with bass of solid state yeah right. Read some reviews and honestly same poop. Even a reviewer said great detail but thinner than real life no thanks!

Only thing that may have hope is GaN by ADG which adds in 2nd order.

Maybe in another 5 yrs class D may sound good!😮
Also, I reiterate unless you solely listen to analog master tapes in your home set up you need to add some bloom and warmth. I enjoy music from Tidal, Amazon and Spotify streaming.
Also, I reiterate unless you solely listen to analog master tapes in your home set up you need to add some bloom and warmth.


i agree with this important point about making systems sound natural and real... something that most ’measurement geeks’ just fail to understand...

like they say, tube gear manufacturers haven’t been stealing deaf peoples’ money all these years