Why is there no love for Prima Luna?


I have noticed fairly negative comments on Prima Luna in various discussions. Granted, I’ve never heard their gear but they seem to offer quite a value proposition. Point to point wiring, auto bias, protection circuits, easy tube rolling, good parts and build quality. I had considered looking into the Evo series integrated but the brand seems to be downplayed on this forum. Anyone have direct experience as to why?
cincyhound
This year I am upgrading all my equipment.

I am trying to buy from North America and support the smaller audio companies.

I just received a Raven Blackhawk Mk.3.1 Integrated (2020 update) which I am using to power some Ascend Acoustics Sierra Towers w/RAAL.

I only have to use 1/4 turn to drive the Towers. The speakers are even more holographic now that I have added the Blackhawk. 

My cables are all Raven Audio and I was shocked at how extremely well built all the cables were. The amp is extremely well built, with excellent parts from all over the world. Raven is a class act.

I am glad to see great equipment from Asia at a good prices like the Doge 10 or the Willsenton R8.  Can you listen to them before you buy, or do they offer a period of time to decide if you want to keep them?

There are many North American companies that don't get the press Asia is starting to get now. Many of them do offer a 30 or 45 day return policy.

I love my Raven. Thanks Dave, James and Bryant for your excellent products and support.


From what I have read online, most people seem pretty happy with their Prima Luna gear. Seems to be well made and supported by the US distributor.
Prima Luna is made in the Cayin/Spark factory. Cayin/Spark is a subsidiary of Zhuhai Spark Electronic Equipment Co, LTD. which is owned by China National Aero-technology Import and Export Corporation (CATIC). CATIC is owned by the Chinese government. CATIC is also a manufacturer of military aviation products and supplies both China and abroad.In other words, Prima Luna is made in direct partnership with the Chinese government. There is a very good chance that at least some of the parts have been made by slave labor. I know there are lots of ways of rationalizing buying things like this but there are too many other good alternatives from countries that don’t have slave work forces. I would hate to find out one day that my pleasure came from another person’s misery.This is just my choice. In the end it is a personal decision based on my experience in the world.
Pretty sure MC started this, bringing everything down a notch by linking “stop the steal” and freedom of expression.  WTF?  Audiogon does rhyme with QAnon, but maybe we should resist the politics. 
Well I either learned something new (one of the benefits of this forum) or forgot this detail, but I either forgot or didn’t know that my Dialogue Premium HP was made in China. It does mate well with my Magico A3s. Not discounting the politics. But politics aside for the moment, there is no denying that some of the best audio gear is made in China. Examples: Denafrips DACs. Topping DACS. SMSL headphone amps. Any number of Chifi IEMs. 
Pretty sure MC started this, bringing everything down a notch by linking “stop the steal” and freedom of expression.

Pretty sure your reading comprehension* is off the charts- the bottom not the top.

For the record, here’s the very first post.
Honestly, I think is where it’s made.

Also for the record, I never mentioned stop the steal. You did. So what you did, that’s called a lie. People who lie we call liars. People who can’t read we call illiterate.

Just so you know, that is the reason I will never respond to anything you post ever again: no time to waste on an illiterate liar.

*Big word. Sorry. Means you don't understand what you read. Its a form of illiteracy.