Why is there no love for Prima Luna?


I have noticed fairly negative comments on Prima Luna in various discussions. Granted, I’ve never heard their gear but they seem to offer quite a value proposition. Point to point wiring, auto bias, protection circuits, easy tube rolling, good parts and build quality. I had considered looking into the Evo series integrated but the brand seems to be downplayed on this forum. Anyone have direct experience as to why?
cincyhound
@joms  I have demo’d a PrimaLuna integrated with the 805 D3.  Awful match. The 805 D3 is a hard speaker to drive.  The sound was thin and soundstage really didn’t come together.  
There are tube amps that can drive them but PrimaLuna would not be my choice.  
Very happy owner of a PL Prologue Classic integrated for close to 2 yrs now.  It’s driving 42 yr old JBLs (L65s) and probably the perfect tube amp for me given my budget and disinclination to fiddle with adjustments.  Previously, my L 65s were powered by a Pioneer SX-1250, a Denon PMA 700V integrated, and as fronts in an HT setup with a Sony ES series 5.1 receiver.  Hands down, the Primaluna has given me the best sound quality of all these combinations.  I did swap the stock EL 34 tubes for Gold Lion KT 77s this year which have suited my ears significantly better but even with the stock power tubes it’s been the best SQ I’ve experienced thru my speakers heretofore.

My guess on the “lack of love” thing is a mix of geo-political prejudices and the possible SQ improvements one might be able to eek out of a more tweak-friendly component.....sort of a “full racetrack modified Porsche vs a showroom Porsche” analogy here...
Absolutely love my PL Dialogue Premium preamp which fronts my Cary Audio Six Pac mono blocks. I wonder how many of those knocking the brand because it is made in China have iPhones.

J.Chip
" most people seem pretty happy with their Prima Luna gear. Seems to be well made and supported by the US distributor ..... Prima Luna is made in direct partnership with the Chinese government. "

Hmmm Prima Luna was formed by Kevin Deal (Upscale Audio) & Herman v an den Dungen of Durob Audio (Netherlands) in 2000.

Dear friend I have the old premium dialogue preamplifier and the dialogue HP premium amplifier that I use with Magneplanar mg IIIA. After tube rolling with KT150 I can say that never in my long life I have listen with the greatest plesure. So I acquired the dialogue premium integrated for my quad Z1 and I roll the for valve, always with KT 150 (great valves after 100-200 hour of burn in). Magnificent result. So my brother bought the dialogue premium HP for his old BMW  after drived them with a lot of SS and tube ampiliers. He said that this one will be his last amplifier. Great! Trust me.