Do chinese tube preamp/amp clones interest you?


Hi all,

looks like there a quite a few clones of almost iconic gear available, e.g. this is an example
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001822040138.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.4f8c6644HLjQ8o&a...

Have you ever wondered how they sound, are tempted to try them out, maybe even get it as a kit?

Or better even, got them and can report back?

Inquiring minds would like to know,

cheers
brxl
brxl
I found some of the opinions expressed here about Chinese Amps to be based on prejudice & lack of knowledge  rather than listening to the product. It is true a lot of rubbish came out of China , but, this apply more or less to most countries.
I am not Chinese( I am British -Egyptian & Ex Hi Fi plus publisher. My day job is Orthopedic Surgeon)
I have superb Hi Fi system ( Clearaudio Goldfinger , Acoustical Axiom & Kuzma 14 inch arms..Wafac PRT1 , Burmister, Lamm, Jadis, CJ, Audionet ,  Acostic Arts ,, Krell, BAT.. Giya -Vivid Speakers.)
But , My Pride & Joy ; AM 833 MKII 140 watt single ended of pure magic.
I have 4 monobocks. 2 monos : silver edition, RRP around 25000 US $ & 2 monos ULTIMA  of All Silver Transformers , RRP aound 50000 US$ plus. this is is probably one of the best Amps regardless of the price.
It is made in China By a Genius called Fang & the website is 
am-hiend.com
. Apart from brilliant design , customer service is second to none. if you do not have distributor , contact him directly, you will not be disappointed
What sort of prejudice do you see? And, lack of knowledge of what specifically, are you referring to?
The Ming Da stuff seems to be well made and sounds pretty good and has been around for long enough to be trustworthy.But honestly the way the CCP is behaving is very concerning and people really should be avoiding buying anything made in China until they stop acting like psychopaths.They are now attacking Australian companies and the Australian government through bogus trading  embargos  and faked content in an attempt to stop the Australian government and media from commenting on human rights abuses and the jailing of democracy activists,and ethnic and religious  minorities.Who's next?
I've bought a Chinese Tube amplifier about nine years ago that is still my preferred every day amp. But when I received it and plugged it in, the sound was dark and totally closed in. Fortunately, I found an upgrade on a DIY forum for that exact amplifier. Music Angel 845 Class A amplifier upgrade.  After a total circuit remake and installation of top quality audio parts, this thing sings to it's hart content.  Of course, you have to know your way around electronics, and you have to make sure to not get electrocuted. This thing packs roughly 1000 volts. I would not recommend it for the novice. For me, it was much cheaper to buy the amp and redo the circuit than building from scratch. Not to mention of a better finish.  I also had to change all the tubes with NOS, as they where poor quality sounding. But super quiet. The only repair I had to make was to change the turn on relay after two years. Hopping this information will help. 
If cost is a big issue for you and you'd like something truly hi-end, build the SP14 kit from VTA.  The full kit cost is $1099 and they have excellent tech support.  The well received Don Sachs preamp, which sells for about $2500 new, is just the SP14 in a custom chassis.

VTA offers their preamp fully assembled or you can buy just the boards and parts and build your own custom chassis. 

They also have lower cost tube preamps for those who haven't the budget for the SP14.  Their lowest cost tube preamp kit is the SP11, which is only $425.  I have little doubt it would perform at least as well as any of the bogus Chinese amps.