Has anyone heard the SAT XD1


As a Swede I was a bit proud years ago that we had a very good Swedish made turntable, the Forsell Air Reference. They don't make them anymore but you can find some used ones on different sites.

Now we seem to have a new Swedish made turntable again! 
The SAT (Swedish Audio Technology) XD1 
I don't even have a table but I am happy. Too bad it is priced out of range for almost all of us. On the other hand Fremer seems to think it is one of the best tables in the world right now. Very high praises. I hope I can hear it some day at some audio show, even though I personally probably won't hear much difference from other high end turntables.

https://www.stereophile.com/content/analog-corner-304-sat-xd1-record-player

http://www.swedishat.com/

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisa4dae-forsell-air-reference-tangential-air-bearing-turntable-su...
headphonedreams
@daveyf
The value proposition is very straightforward - for the customer to own something unique and expensive. Most wealthy folk assume that if you pay more you get a better product, particularly when it comes to technilogical based products.

For the manufacturer it is a very simple calculation - can you make more by selling fewer, more exclusive, items at a higher price.

This is the inverse of the Levi Jeans saga when they almost went bust lauching a high end clothing. Their value proposition was cheap, rugged clothing, not consonant with high end suits.


The barrier to making these expensive products more affordable exists in the body of this forum - the forum is full of folk who want to believe their clapped out 70’s audio product ( think direct drive TT here ) that cost a nickel in a garage sale is the greatest audio product ever made and can compete with anything made today, particularly when they have added their own unique take on snake oil. You know them, "when I stuck some Wrigleys pepperment chewing gum on the headshell, my 1983 Grace 707 with the wonky bearings blew away an SAT tonearm". 

In a shrinking upper end 2 channel audio market the skinflints are killing off whats left of any potential market for innovative product at a "reasonable price".



@dover   LOL, your post about folks who believe they have the SOTA with their 70's audio product ( think direct drive TT here) definitely made me laugh. 
However, you do realize that the new SAT XD1 is priced at $282K...yes?
(with an SAT arm at that price..:0) )

real sustainable sales will establish the value proposition ( for the buyer not a wannabe 1% referee on the sidelines ).....now, where did I set that glass of $15 French rotgut red from...agahst...Costco ?
@daveyf
Yes, I’ve seen the pricing, and I have no issue with it.
If I could afford it and it was the best, based on my own in home audition, I’d buy it.

For those of us who cant afford it, I still welcome these products on the basis of pushing the envelope, and trickle down.

There are many advances in everyday motorcars derived from Formula 1 technology, but we cant all afford a Formula 1 racing car.

Personally I have not heard a direct drive that I like, but that doesn’t preclude that from happening one day.

Every time someone launches a new product, good or bad, should be celebrated because it means more interest generated in our hobby that exists in a shrinking market.

Most western economies are becoming hourglass in shape, very rich or poor, middle class hollowed out, and with it follows the shape of the audio market and products launched.