SUT into MM input section of Solid State Phono Stage

What must be matched between a SUT and the cartridge is the SUT gain to the cartridge output level, this is the main issue and not impedance loading.Any SUT with the rigth gain can works with any cartridge with the adequated output level it does not matters its impedances.

This is at best misleading.  I agree 100% that the sole purpose of the turns ratio is level matching.   It is best to match a SUT for both step up ratio and cartridge impedance.  Taking the two extremes of a 2Ω and a 40Ω, a 2Ω cartridge feeding a SUT designed for 40Ω will have bass response down to the single digits and show a pronounced resonant peak at some point (hopefully) above the audio range.  Going the other direction and using a SUT intended for a 2Ω source with a 40Ω cartridge will result in inadequate low and  (possibly) high frequency response.

dave

D@intactaudio : That’s how the SUT react not the cartridge. I think that you can do what you posted ( dedicated SUT. ) because you make your own SUT. I’m talking of normal SUT and I own quite a few that I tested in a very high resolution system and what you posted I just can’t detected.
Your post appreciated.

R.

Dear @no_regrets  : I did it and time to time I do and my active high gain phonolinepreamp is a little better.

R.

As a fact the comercial SUT are designed that way where ( example. ) 3 ohms of impedance means high gain between 30db-40db .
I never seen a SUT with 36db of gain for 40 ohms impedance cartridges.

Normally cartridge internal impedance value has an inherent relationship with its output level and the gain it needs .

SUT gain is critical to match a cartridge because if it's to high normally will overload the phono stage and if it's to low will develops some kind of noise and a little dull sound.

R.

What must be matched between a SUT and the cartridge is the SUT gain to the cartridge output level, this is the main issue and not impedance loading.Any SUT with the rigth gain can works with any cartridge with the adequated output level it does not matters its impedances.

This is at best misleading. I agree 100% that the sole purpose of the turns ratio is level matching.  It is best to match a SUT for both step up ratio and cartridge impedance. Taking the two extremes of a 2Ω and a 40Ω, a 2Ω cartridge feeding a SUT designed for 40Ω will have bass response down to the single digits and show a pronounced resonant peak at some point (hopefully) above the audio range. Going the other direction and using a SUT intended for a 2Ω source with a 40Ω cartridge will result in inadequate low and (possibly) high frequency response.

dave

Thanks Dave.
There are some MC cartridges on the edge aka extremely low output MC or higher output MC, but the majority of the LOMC cartridges are 0.2 - 0.3 mV or very close to it (in my opinion). For different LOMC cartridges with the same output of 0.2 mV the difference in cartridge impedance can be huge from 2 Ohm to 30 Ohm, if the output is slightly different the impedance difference can be even bigger. I think all users have to pay attention to impedance matching of the SUT and Cart and for Japanese manufacturers of the SUTs it was very important (always). For American or European manufacturers I often see only step-up ratio.