Anyone listen to Zu Audio's Definition Mk3?

>>So you see 23 you say one thing and do another. If ASR should then Audion should. You have lost my attention 23!<<

The difference is, the Audion Black Shadows sound fully credible stock, and they are not inordinately affected by power cords. And since I took it upon myself to investigate power supply capactior upgrades, I communicated this back to Audion and they are running their own listening test to determine whether they want to incorporate same in future stock. But I didn't NEED the cap upgrades to enjoy the amps nor to render them musically convincing. Everything can be improved, but if there is an external dependency for an amp to sound convincing, then that should be supplied.

Now on the Golden Dreams, the capacitor upgrade made a bigger difference, which led me to now consider the Golden Dream a full-frequency amp, which I previously cautioned was compromised in deep bass performance. Above 100Hz, however, Audion Golden Dream monoblocks were and remain among the very best hifi amplifiers ever made, by music criteria, with or without the recap.

Phil

>>Sounds like you are pissed about something here 23.<<

Nope. I'm sorry if I gave you reason to infer that.

>>Remember I live in FL 23? HOT here.<<

I live in Los Angeles, and not on the beach. It's hot here too. I never understood the hot weather amps phenomenon. It just doesn't make that much difference, and certainly not enough to affect an amplification decision -- for me.

We disagree on the "...plenty more out there to champion..." I think there are very few exceptional hifi products in any category worth seriously considering at any given time, such being the deleterious influences of rampant groupthink.

Phil

>>Your writings and hypocrisy has destroyed your credibility with my circle of friends and myself.<<

As I wrote, it's not a popularity contest. You don't have to read what I write, and you don't have to be influenced by it. This is a discussion; not an election. You draw your conclusions and decide what's actionable. I never mind holding a minority point of view. You posted twice more after writing that I "lost your attention." Fascinating. Please, feel free to ignore me.

Phil

2,

Spin Doctor.

Weasel writing.

You can have the last word and the last word after that and finally the very last of the last word.

Goodby

Fellow A'goners, audio really doesn't merit this amount of hot temperedness. Worlwide economic mismanagement yes, Third World poverty yes, global warming yes, but differences in opinions in audio NO!
The problem is that cool disageements on the merits or otherwise of a piece of equipment, which if made face to face wouldn't raise anyone's blood pressure, if put down in text form only, seems to get misinterpreted as a personal attack on one's deeply held convictions.
So shouldn't we all take a step back, and realise everyone holds their views with true conviction, and realise that we can all agree to disagree. Otherwise we'd all have the same expectations from audio replay and all buy the same equipment.
And in the grand scheme of things, Zu, ASR, Audion etc. are pretty small players in a pretty small marketplace, surely we can have a small slice of happiness from different approaches to nirvana. Ie these companies all produce excellent near state of the art gear and deserve to survive.
Just my 2 cents' worth.