Thiel Owners

thanks for the historical info. Great stuff to hear..no pun intended ha

I don’t have much too trouble with my CS2’s in my 13x22 room, they are along the long wall about 8’ apart and my listening position about at the equilateral triangle point. Room is well deadened with panels and the CS2’s throw a remarkable very wide and accurate stage. I am struggling a bit more with the Magi 3.7’s, as I think they want even more space...still working on that although they sound very good especially those sweet mid and highs...well what highs my slightly older ears can hear of the highs anyway...
I still think the Thiel’s may have an edge with the right recordings and, quite likely, as a result of the placement challenges you mention but it is close. I am a bit concerned if I go to the 3.6’s they may suffer due to the room situation so also considering one of the later 2 series as I think I will always have to have a pair of Thiel’s  available for me...ha...good listening

Ps...I haven’t tried FuzzMeasure but will definitely explore...thx.

jm - FuzzMeasure is similar to Room Equalizer Wizzard. It seems that REW has many more adherents in hi fi land. I got FM because JA used it extensively in his Stereophile graphs, and it works well for my semi-pro room optimization work in recording sites, studios and theaters.
FWIW: I've been working on my CS2.2s, because I have them, as my main workhorse to develop upgrade paths for some classic Thiel models. Everything learned will apply to the CS2. So if you love yours, you might keep them and see what we can eventually make of them.

Tom,

Sounds great, I have no intention of letting my CS2’s go,
These are actually a second pair since my original pair bought new in the late 80’s lost sound to the tweeter/mid. I believe there is a gent Rob in Lexington, that you likely know, repairing these but it was easier to just get a nice used pair. After Covid mess maybe I will road trip to Lexington and see if I can get my originals repaired. Still I may look for some later 2 series just because I really love the sound, they work brilliantly in my space, and I know the design execution just got better and better. Amazing after 30 +/- years they still rival or best many of today’s high $ designs...cudos to Jim....and I haven’t done anything with room equalization so who knows how much better this might get....look forward to hearing about your work...

Last thing about Convolution filters and then I will stop.

I am listening to some rock music now, Robert Plant and Rainbow. I was starting to feel sleepy when I was listening. This used to happen prior to the Convolution implementation (too much sound pressure). The imaging was also off and the sound seemed to be coming from the speakers instead of the speakers disappearing. I thought these are old recording and maybe that is how they were recorded.

I must have had a brain freeze since I was under the impression that I had turned ON the Convolution. It is very easy to see on ROON current track being played. However, it turned out that I have not enabled the Convolution because I had listened to headphones the prior night. I think I was fascinated by the new MQA DAC setting in my sound path and did not notice the Convolution was missing.

I turned ON the Convolution and the pressure that was making me sleepy disappeared, the speakers also disappeared, and the imaging became great. This is some great technology. OK, no more on the Convolution stuff.