This thread is a great example of why I chose many years ago to avoid DIY. How many ways does one wish to swim in the quicksand of slippery standards of sound quality, with no assurance of a result with actual great sound? I'll give the manufacturers their due; it's a lot better than wasting my life/time/money building a mediocre components that are not worth hearing.
It didn't take genius to see that the amp, speaker, etc. kits all have fundamental caveats. You don't get superb on the cheap. The odds you will make huge mistakes are very high, as evidenced in the thread here.
So, you spend your days slaving over a build that ends up an also ran. Not my idea of how I want to spend my audiophile life. Maybe if I was thrilled to look at circuits, it would be fun. But, what fun is it when the sound is so-so? I'm not into this to see how good I can make cheap audio. That's all but assurance that one plays in the shallower end of the pool.
Kudos to those who want to play in DIY for the learning, for the fun of it. But, that's not me. I can't stand compromised sound, and I won't accept it long term. If it can't perform at a high level, then pride of build/DIY doesn't matter. Same with vintage; can't take it, as the sound quality is just not there typically. It's cheaper, it's nostalgic, but it's nowhere near great.
What's interesting here, too, is how many times people have tried to tell the OP that he's missing things, but the self-confidence and skepticism is off the charts. No wonder he'll not build a superior amp. Having used discrete opamps rolling into the EE Minimax DACS, I know firsthand how they can contour everything related to the sound, not only tonality. The OP is hard core skeptical, so it's not surprising to me he can't get the amp to work great. This should be a cautionary tale for those who tend to "think" what should or should not work. This is a perfect example of how theory on the cheap doesn't build great components - or systems.
This site has become rife with people like this; really proud of their objectivist perspective, and declarative of what should or should not work. Only one problem; it doesn't build superior systems, it builds average systems, nothing worth writing home about.
It reminds me of some of the industry members, manufacturers, with the same attitude, very skeptical of anything other than what they consider to be supported by theory. They tend to build to spec, with the cheapest parts that should do the job competently. These are not the best components on the market. They serve a purpose for the lower cost audiophile, but there is significant compromise to them sonically. These components over many iterations of systems never rise to the top; they never best superior gear with higher quality build and methods.
It didn't take genius to see that the amp, speaker, etc. kits all have fundamental caveats. You don't get superb on the cheap. The odds you will make huge mistakes are very high, as evidenced in the thread here.
So, you spend your days slaving over a build that ends up an also ran. Not my idea of how I want to spend my audiophile life. Maybe if I was thrilled to look at circuits, it would be fun. But, what fun is it when the sound is so-so? I'm not into this to see how good I can make cheap audio. That's all but assurance that one plays in the shallower end of the pool.
Kudos to those who want to play in DIY for the learning, for the fun of it. But, that's not me. I can't stand compromised sound, and I won't accept it long term. If it can't perform at a high level, then pride of build/DIY doesn't matter. Same with vintage; can't take it, as the sound quality is just not there typically. It's cheaper, it's nostalgic, but it's nowhere near great.
What's interesting here, too, is how many times people have tried to tell the OP that he's missing things, but the self-confidence and skepticism is off the charts. No wonder he'll not build a superior amp. Having used discrete opamps rolling into the EE Minimax DACS, I know firsthand how they can contour everything related to the sound, not only tonality. The OP is hard core skeptical, so it's not surprising to me he can't get the amp to work great. This should be a cautionary tale for those who tend to "think" what should or should not work. This is a perfect example of how theory on the cheap doesn't build great components - or systems.
This site has become rife with people like this; really proud of their objectivist perspective, and declarative of what should or should not work. Only one problem; it doesn't build superior systems, it builds average systems, nothing worth writing home about.
It reminds me of some of the industry members, manufacturers, with the same attitude, very skeptical of anything other than what they consider to be supported by theory. They tend to build to spec, with the cheapest parts that should do the job competently. These are not the best components on the market. They serve a purpose for the lower cost audiophile, but there is significant compromise to them sonically. These components over many iterations of systems never rise to the top; they never best superior gear with higher quality build and methods.