Replacement for Marantz AV8801: another prepro or receiver?


My 2014-vintage Marantz AV8801 prepro lost its HDMI audio -- was able to get it back (posted that elsewhere) but likely temporarily. 

Given that I'm planning an Atmos surround system, it's time for an upgrade, which is a shame because it's a great unit, but barely going for anything online and I wouldn't be comfortable in selling it or even donating it to Goodwill. So while it works, I'll try to figure out what to replace it with.

I currently only have a 3.0 system: I currently use the AV8801 to drive two B&W Nautilus 801s for the fronts via a recently acquired Parasound A21+ and a B&W HTM71S2 center with an old Nakamichi PA-7. Since I'm going to Atmos, the conundrum is whether to get another preprocessor: most likely an AV7706, which I'm assured has better processing and sound than the 8801; the 8805 doesn't support the latest standards without an upgrade that is not available and there's no 8806 on the horizon.

The alternative is a receiver like the Marantz SR8015 or Denon AVR-X6700H. All three came out within the last 6 months so they should support the latest standards.  I like the idea of 11 channels of amplification to deploy as I see fit.  If I go that way, I'd like to biamp the HTM71S2 center with two of the channels and use the rest for surrounds (exact configuration still to be determined). 

What I'm wondering is whether the amplification in these receivers is good enough for the surrounds, or whether I should just get the preprocessor and some configurable amplification like Emotiva with a high-power module for the center and lower-power modules for the ceilings and surrounds.  

Opinions?
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AVS forum has a strong bias towards all receivers sounding the same, all amps sounding the same, cables are snake oil and so on.  Unless they've changed their ways, it's best to know the bias going in.

It sounds like the OP has been running a 3 channel set up only with the Marantz prepro and is looking to upgrade to Atmos, with all of the extra channels that this requires.  Also, it looks like the B&W fronts he has go down to 3 ohms, and their spec is that they'll take up to 1000 wpc.

That being the case, I really think that no receiver would do them justice.  I'd concur that the Marantz 7706 would be the best option.  The tricky part is getting the exact same amplification across the front 3 channels since the Parasound A21+ would then be on the left and right.  Parasound doesn't make a monoblock that would match the A21+ for a center channel, so a new multi channel amp might have to be acquired.  The A31 might be close enough, but in needing 9 or more channels at 250 wpc, that's going to be a chunk of change on top of the speakers needed.


I went from an Anthem D2v to the AV8805 and find it much easier to navigate as well in 2 Channel much less sterile than the anthem. I am only using it for 5.1 but maybe sometime I may try Atmos but not in the budget anytime soon.
Look at the Integra DRX Line.  I went from the Marantz to Integra.  PLenty of power and all in one unit.
I will keep using the Parasound A21+ for the 801s -- it's a fantastic combination that sounds great, whether it's playing softly or rattling the dishes  The Parasound made an amazing difference over my 30 year old Nakamichi PA7 amp, keeping everything in the music mix crystal-clear even at high volumes without any congestion.  My lovely wife no longer complains when it's up loud.  But this is something I don't want to lose by going to a lesser preamp in the preprocessor. 

This mix is 80/20 movies/music with music streamed mostly from AmazonHD or my ripped CD collection from FLAC.  I don't play records very often (mine are all very old and scratchy), but still need a phono section.  But music is on quite a bit while I'm doing other things in the house, and Alexa/HEOS with AmazonHD music would be a welcome improvement, especially if everything can be turned on with a voice command rather than using 3 remotes (the Nak has no 12V trigger). I know both Marantz and Denon do this well.  And I've seen comments online that the analog section in these AVRs is really pretty good. 

So, after a whole lot of forum perusing, I'm now tilting towards the Denon AVR-X6700H (140wpc x 11) -- the price is right and it wold be great if I could use it to biamp the HTM71S2 center (not clear if that's possible but not a deal-killer as the center is not really used for music).  That leaves 9 channels for the surrounds -- 2 sides, 2 rears, plus maybe 4 smaller speakers in the ceiling for Atmos, none of which should tax 140wpc (I know it's less if all channels are driven). There is also the higher-end X8500H or the ridiculously priced A110 but those are both 2017 or maybe 2018 designs (8K support was added to the A110 and). I think I've learned that lesson -- get the latest prepro possible and only expect it to last 6 years. Bummer, but it is what it is.