Move From AVR to Integrated?

@213runnin Does the Outlaws bass management work both to limit low frequencies to sub and also so only those above go to mains? 

There are many different thoughts on bass management. I’ve tried many, and have no issue leaving my Vandersteen 2CE Sigs run full range, and my two subs adjusted to supplement and augment them, not replace their bass.

Paul McGowan of PS Audio was the first I had heard believe in keeping their mains at full range while using subs. So, I tried it. It works, but simply works differently than the more ‘typical’ way or stripping out most the lows at your mains and replacing them with the subwooofer. You can use all of the subs. It just take a bit more time fine tuning. 

In the end, I prefer that method for music. Granted, in HT, it may not be as powerful, but that isn’t my primary goal, music is.

BTW, the ZPre also has a sub RCA/LFE connection. It just does not have the adjustments of the NewClassic 200, Which does allow you to manage your bass to the mains and subs.

213runnin Does the Outlaws bass management work both to limit low frequencies to sub and also so only those above go to mains?

Yes, it crosses over the mains as well as the sub.  Being that you've got bookshelf speakers(albeit very good bass response for a standmount), having a sub is essential to hearing anything below about 40 hz.  I happen to have a HSU sub in my 2 channel rig as well as one in the theater, they are superb at their price points.

To me the best thing about the P5 pre from Parasound was it had this sub crossover feature.  It was the best blending of my Totem Rainmakers that I'd heard.   

I don't mean to try to push the Outlaw on you, just that it's good to know all of the pros and cons of any option before you decide.  

@213runnin No, I really appreciate this info. When I think of one option, another hole in the chain becomes apparent. And while some do run mains wide open, the Sierras are going to distort at higher volumes on the low end. If they could handle higher SPL at the 40hz I wouldn't be as concerned. 

There are always ‘holes’, that’s why we keep buying stuff 😁

But, believe me, as I’ve been where you are now, your biggest hole is trying to get good 2 channel music from an AVR. Get that out of the chain, and your other holes won’t seem so large.

Believe me, as I didn’t want to believe that my AVR couldn’t be an acceptable 2 channel preamp either, surrounded by all my other upgrades....separate amp, separate phono stage, separate DAC, etc. Then  kicked myself for not getting the AVR out of the music chain sooner after I hooked up the little Parasound pre. Oh well, at least I had bought all those other goodies along the journey, some replaced, and still others to be replaced....including the Zpre eventually  :-)