A question for 45 SET experienced listeners


Hello,

A few months ago I posted a topic regarding speakers paired with a 45 SET amp. Well, I am still debating the purchase of one since I adore my 2a3 to no end. I own a Triode Lab 2a3 and a Triode Lab/Finale 300b. I enjoy both for different reasons, as I'm sure you guessed. My 2a3 uses a 6SN7 drive tube and the 300 a 12AX7. Well, the amps Frank creates are just treasures to me, but I only just came to the conclusion that I would like a 6SN7 tube to drive my 45. Well, I took a look at the Triode site and bam, I see a 12AX7 on Frank's 45 amp. I will talk to him about it, but I was hoping to get some advice from some of you regarding your thoughts on the 6SN7 and 12AX7 driving a 45 tube.

Basically, do you guys think a 6SN7 in a 45 amp would perhaps render a bit too much bloom? I enjoy the sound of mellow, thicker, warmer amps, but must admit I am curious if this may be too much, and maybe the 12AX7 would be the right choice.

I was a classical musician and enjoyed warmer instruments. Classical is the primary music genre I listen too, so Heifetz through a mellow sounding system is just right for me. Though, not a 'honey' viscous thick system.  

What do you guys think? Ideas?

And if this may help any, I am using Omega speakers. They have plenty of air on top, with the soundstage up there just as plentiful. So, this is only a guess, but I'm thinking even more warmth, beyond that of my current amps, may be a good thing. 

Thanks for reading,
robert
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Hi @atmasphere ,

Do you know why so many designers use 6sn7 driver for 300B and even 211 and 845 tubes?
1. Do they want to achieve a special slow signature of an amplifier sound?
2. Do they do it as result of lack of knowledge and experience?

Regards,
Alex. 
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Do you know why so many designers use 6sn7 driver for 300B and even 211 and 845 tubes?
1. Do they want to achieve a special slow signature of an amplifier sound?
2. Do they do it as result of lack of knowledge and experience?
@alexberger

To the first, no. I've yet to ask any designers of amps using those tubes why they made any of the choices they did.

To the second, no. You have a different set of issues with the tubes you mentioned- getting bandwidth in an SET of the power levels these tubes are capable of is increasingly more difficult for the output transformer as the power level is increased. I could see that lack of bandwidth being construed as 'slow'.

To the third, no.


You can get good bandwidth with a 6SN7 and you can get low distortion owing to good linearity. So it can be quite neutral, and has the advantage of being capable of fairly high current, so you can drive a fairly high capacitance grid with it no worries. The grids of the power tubes you mentioned would be a walk in the park for this tube. Since its designed for audio, its easier to find lower microphonic examples than it is to do so for something like a 6922 or other frame-grid triodes. A further advantage is that its in production and easy to get. Its also pretty reliable.