Thanks for the link. Too bad not cryo treated, but the prices are great! We should do a group purchase and get it cryo treated 🤓. TFA is always out it seems and slow shipping speed. Parts Connextion in CA ships overnight for $15! TFA charges twice that and it takes 10-14 days to get here. Sometimes longer.
Duelund conversion to DIY Helix Geometry Cabling
I have been an avid user of the Duelund cabling for over two years now and have used them exclusively in my system with great results. I have built many for friends and have used a full loom of interconnects, speaker cables, power cords and an extensive wiring modification for a previously owned balanced power conditioner utilizing Duelund 600V PolyCast wiring which was transformative. My cabling desires can be a little addictive as I have owned and evaluated 40+ brands of cabling costing more than an entire stereo system!
Over the past six months I stumbled upon a thread here on Audiogon in regards to a Helix designed cabling and as you probably already know, I just had to look a little deeper into this cable design…After a month of studying and sourcing parts, I decided to reach out to the designer/architect, Williewonka who gave more insights and philosophy on how the cable came into existence.
That conversation got the ball rolling in converting one of my KLE Duelund interconnects to Steve’s Helix designed which only entailed replacing the neutral with a Mil-Spec 16 AWG silver-plated copper wire with the neural wire being 3 times longer than the signal wire and of course the “Coiling” of the neutral wire : )
After the modification was complete, I was not sure what to expect from the Helix cabling but I was quite shocked with the results with “ZERO” burn-in time…The sound stage became much wider/deeper with a much tighter/focused image and clarity/transparency is like nothing I have ever heard in any cabling regardless of cost. In fact, I just sold a full loom of a commercially designed Helix Cable that’s renowned around the world and has more direct sale than any cable manufacturer; these $200 DIY Helix Cables walked all over them…
I believe you will hear the same results as I have and have heard back from friends who have already modified their Duelunds with the same results; WOW! Remember the cables will need 200+ hours to burn-in and settle into your system. My system is now 90% DIY Helix to include IC, SC, PC and Coax with each cabling adding its beauty of an organic and natural presentation that draws you into the fabric of the music.
You can tailor the sound of your cables using Duelund, Mundorf silver/1% gold, the outstanding Vh Audio OCC Solid Copper or Silver with Airlok Insulation or your favorite wiring and you can change it at any time…
http://www.image99.net/blog/files/category-diy-cables.html
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/difference-in-sound-between-copper-and-silver-digital-cables
https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/adding-shielding-to-existing-cables
Enjoy,
Wig
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Those a great prices - many thanks for the link - I’ll update my web site :-) This will make the Helix cables much more affordable ! - When I first started this - the 10 gauge wire was actually $1.30/ft - these prices are better than that. They have some great colour choices also :-) As for Cryo treating - I’m not sure it adds anything when used with the Helix cables. - It’s probably the silver plating that provides the most benefit I know a couple of guys in eastern Europe had to make do with non-cryo silver plated wires and they still reported great results. Has anyone out there had a more positive experience using Cryo’d wire and parts compared to non-cryo - i.e. on the Helix cables? Cheers - Steve |
Why double up with the DS method, when you can QUADRUPLE!! https://www.ebay.com/itm/Interconnect-Cable-RCA-Custom-Hi-End/284139528202?hash=item422809200a:g:Sc8AAOSw8ilf9dsh |
Today’s interesting experience/observations... As per my post above - I now have the Neotech UP-OCC as the live/signal wires across my entire system - that is except for my power distribution center. The live wires in it was 4 stands of 18 Mudorf Solid silver/gold in cotton sleeve, approximately 10" long I changed the silver wire to 12 gauge Neotech UP-OCC copper on Monday. The sound was basically OK, but if I moved slightly off center the image went horribly wrong and sounded like it was bouncing off side walls. Since I had observed this anomaly during the burn-in process with another pair of interconnects, I let the burn-in continue. So this evening I listened to my system and the anomaly had corrected itself nicely, as expected, but the system now has a significantly larger image and the bass goes even deeper. The balance front to back is very nice and very detailed and artist placement is very precise. These improvements were easily heard because it now appears that the listner is even more immersed in the image, so it was not something that I really had to listen intently for. My surprise was due to the fact the amount of wire replaced in this exercise was a mere 10", i.e. out of a power "corridor" that is some 20 ft long in total. And it was a very good quality wire, not just a piece of extension cord from Home Depot The other thing that changed was the connection to the Outlets on the back of the power distribution center. It was previously just bare wire into the clamp on the outlet. But this time I soldered small spade connectors to the UP_OCC copper This just goes to show - even the smallest changes can yield some very gratifying results. So, was it the wire, or the spades? I’ve promoted the use of spades on my power corridor for a long time. For me, this confirms that using them can be very beneficial The spades are nothing special, just spade connectors from my local Car Parts or hardware store - $20 for 65 pieces The quest continues - even though I told my wife - "That’s it" :-) Regards - Steve |
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