Speaker sensitivity vs SQ


My first thread at AG.

Millercarbon continues to bleat on about the benefits of high sensitivity speakers in not requiring big amplifier watts.
After all, it's true big amplifiers cost big money.  If there were no other factors, he would of course be quite right.

So there must be other factors.  Why don't all speaker manufacturers build exclusively high sensitivity speakers?
In a simple world it ought to be a no-brainer for them to maximise their sales revenue by appealing to a wider market.

But many don't.  And in their specs most are prepared to over-estimate the sensitivity of their speakers, by up to 3-4dB in many cases, in order to encourage purchasers.  Why do they do it?

There must be a problem.  The one that comes to mind is sound quality.  It may be that high sensitivity speakers have inherently poorer sound quality than low sensitivity speakers.  It may be they are more difficult to engineer for high SQ.  There may be aspects of SQ they don't do well.

So what is it please?

128x128clearthinker
@audio2design --

You don’t have to have a highly efficient speaker to overcome dynamic compression in normal usage.

Now, before you tell me what I don’t know and need to know, consider the following:

What system constellation as it pertains to minimum cone diameter, sensitivity rating and wattage would, according to you, be able to deliver sufficient SPL coverage for "normal usage" with a room size of, say, up 30 square meters (or, no more than ~3,000 cf. total volume) - as an active design with the whole none off-the-shelf trimmings, that is, so to stay on your home field? Room acoustics per your preference here.

Enough for a while with any further elaborations of all the exclusivities in regards to tailored driver design, impedance matched amps, measurement methods, analysis and DSP tools and other sheer engineering prowess. Let’s get some blunt, physical requirements in place as per the above.

As the article points out, there are methods of voice coil design, speaker design, material choices, etc. that can all mitigate these problems, hence probably why there are 100’s if not 1000+ speaker designers, but very few professional driver manufacturers, and why top speaker companies design their own drivers.

Would said mitigations make up for what bigger and more efficient drivers incorporating horn- or waveguide loading with compression drivers could do in regards to fairly uninhibited dynamics? What’s sufficient SPL-wise, even? How about headroom - lots of it; does that make of sonic difference to you, the ease that comes from using lots of radiation area and high efficiency?

One thing would be an acknowledgement of the above as a stand-alone factor; another whether it’s compatible with a commercial design meant for sale with all that entails and the size restrictions and other that typically follows here. It’s a convenient stance implicitly claiming what’s "sufficient" for normal usage, likely catering to a product development of one’s own within said limitations, when setting the bar higher in that regard could make a worthwhile difference to some - non-commercial it may be as a product range.

It is also a reason why active speakers will be necessary for the absolute in sound recreation.

Fundamentally, we agree on this.
High sensitivity speakers cost more to make and lets not forget that higher efficiency speakers with higher impedance cost even more to make but it all comes down to good quality design for any speaker to make them perform and sound good you will know when you find the right one for your ears because all sounds will just sound right to your ears.
"A voice coil fan!! Gotta run patent it!"

Not exactly that, but this is another voice coil with a rotating device...

Rotary woofer - Wikipedia
Excellent @glubson. From the fertile mind of Bruce Thigpen, the Eminent Technology TRW-17 Rotary Subwoofer, for the bottom octave (20-40Hz) down (fed enough power, flat to 1Hz!).
Guys, it's simply not true to make a statement that a higher sensitivity speaker is more costly to make.  Drivers, cabinet material, R&D, spikes, connectors, wire, glues, finishes.... and of course how many points dealers get to sell them if selling through conventional means will determine costs, not sensitivity.