It just occurred to me that most people who dis B&W's (800 series) have only heard them on the terrible ROTEL equipment at Best Buy. I agree that they are overpriced, but what isn't? If you want to hear what B&W can do, go to am audio expo and listed to the actual Nautilus, with its four stereo amps of 350 wpc. I know people who spent more and got less, even with only one amp. Check out a google search of Lucas Sound's demo system, with a whole bunch of diamond 800 speakers. Even this system costs less than a lot of folks pay.