My Long List of Amplifiers and My Personal Review of Each!


So I have been in a long journey looking to find the best amplifiers for my martin logan montis. As you know, the match between an amplifier and speakers has to be a good "marriage" and needs to be blend exquisitely. Right now, I think I might have found the best sounding amplifier for martin logan. I have gone through approximately 34-36 amplifiers in the past 12 months. Some of these are:

Bryston ST, SST, SST2 series
NAD M25
PARASOUND HALO
PARASOUND CLASSIC
KRELL TAS
KRELL KAV 500
KRELL CHORUS
ROTEL RMB 1095
CLASSE CT 5300
CLASSE CA 2200
CLASSE CA 5200
MCINTOSH MC 205
CARY AUDIO CINEMA 7
OUTLAW AUDIO 755
LEXICON RX7
PASS LABS XA 30.8
BUTLER AUDIO 5150
ATI SIGNATURE SERIES 6005

With all that said, the amplifiers I mentioned above are the ones that in my opinion are worth mentioning. To make a long story short, there is NO 5 CHANNEL POWER AMP that sounds as good as a 3ch and 2ch amplifier combination. i have done both experiments and the truth is that YOU DO lose details and more channel separation,etc when you select a 5 channel power amplifier of any manufacturer.
My recollection of what each amp sounded like is as follows:

ATI SIGNATURE SERIES 6005 (great power and amazing soundstage. Very low noise floor, BUT this amplifiers NEEDS TO BE cranked up in order to fully enjoy it. If you like listening at low volume levels or somewhat moderate, you are wasting your time here. This amp won’t sound any different than many other brands out there at this volume. The bass is great, good highs although they are a bit bright for my taste)

NAD M25 (very smooth, powerful, but somewhat thin sounding as far as bass goes)
Bryston sst2(detailed, good soundstage, good power, but can be a little forward with certain speakers which could make them ear fatiguing at loud volumes)

Krell (fast sounding, nice bass attack, nice highs, but some detail does get lost with certain speakers)

rotel (good amp for the money, but too bright in my opinion)

cary audio (good sound overall, very musical, but it didn’t have enough oomph)

parasound halo (good detail, great bass, but it still holds back some background detail that i can hear in others)

lexicon (very laid back and smooth. huge power, but if you like more detail or crisper highs, this amp will disappoint you)

McIntosh mc205 (probably the worst multichannel amp given its price point. it was too thin sounding, had detail but lacked bass.

butler audio (good amplifier. very warm and smooth sweet sounding. i think for the money, this is a better amp than the parasound a51)

pass labs (very VERY musical with excellent bass control. You can listen to this for hours and hours without getting ear fatigue. however, it DOES NOT do well in home theater applications if all you have is a 2 channel set up for movies. The midrange gets somewhat "muddy" or very weak sounding that you find yourself trying to turn it up.

classe audio (best amplifier for multi channel applications. i simply COULDNT FIND a better multi channel amplifier PERIOD. IT has amazing smoothness, amazing power and good bass control although i would say krell has much better bass control)

Update: The reviews above were done in January 2015. Below is my newest update as of October 2016:



PS AUDIO BHK 300 MONOBLOCKS: Amazing amps. Tons of detail and really amazing midrange. the bass is amazing too, but the one thing i will say is that those of you with speakers efficiency of 87db and below you will not have all the "loudness" that you may want from time to time. These amps go into protection mode when using a speaker such as the Salon, but only at very loud levels. Maybe 97db and above. If you don’t listen to extreme crazy levels, these amps will please you in every way.

Plinius Odeon 7 channel amp: This is THE BEST multichannel amp i have ever owned. Far , but FAR SUPERIOR to any other multichannel amp i have owned. In my opinion it destroyed all of the multichannel amps i mentioned above and below. The Odeon is an amp that is in a different tier group and it is in a league of its own. Amazing bass, treble and it made my center channel sound more articulate than ever before. The voices where never scrambled with the action scenes. It just separated everything very nicely.

Theta Dreadnaught D: Good detailed amp. Looks very elegant, has a pleasant sound, but i found it a tad too bright for my taste. I thought it was also somewhat "thin" sounding lacking body to the music. could be that it is because it is class d?

Krell Duo 300: Good amp. Nice and detailed with enough power to handle most speakers out there. I found that it does have a very nice "3d" sound through my electrostatics. Nothing to fault here on this amp.
Mark Levinson 532H: Great 2 channel amp. Lots of detail, amazing midrange which is what Mark Levinson is known for. It sounds very holographic and will please those of you looking for more detail and a better midrange. As far as bass, it is there, but it is not going to give you the slam of a pass labs 350.5 or JC1s for example. It is great for those that appreciate classical music, instrumental, etc, but not those of you who love tons of deep bass.

 It is articulate sounding too
Krell 7200: Plenty of detail and enough power for most people. i found that my rear speakers contained more information after installed this amp. One thing that i hated is that you must use xlr cables with this amp or else you lose most of its sound performance when using RCA’s.

Krell 402e: Great amp. Very powerful and will handle any speaker you wish. Power is incredible and with great detail. That said, i didn’t get all the bass that most reviewers mentioned. I thought it was "ok" in regards to bass. It was there, but it didn’t slam me to my listening chair.

Bryston 4B3: Good amp with a complete sound. I think this amp is more laid back than the SST2 version. I think those of you who found the SST2 version of this amp a little too forward with your speakers will definitely benefit from this amp’s warmth. Bryston has gone towards the "warm" side in my opinion with their new SST3 series. As always, they are built like tanks. I wouldn’t call this amp tube-like, but rather closer to what the classe audio delta 2 series sound like which is on the warm side of things.

Parasound JC1s: Good powerful amps. Amazing low end punch (far superior bass than the 402e). This amp is the amp that i consider complete from top to bottom in regards to sound. Nothing is lacking other than perhaps a nicer chassis. Parasound needs to rework their external appearance when they introduce new amps. This amp would sell much more if it had a revised external appearance because the sound is a great bang for the money. It made my 800 Nautilus scream and slam. Again, amazing low end punch.

Simaudio W7: Good detailed amp. This amp reminds me a lot of the Mark Levinson 532h. Great detail and very articulate. I think this amp will go well with bookshelves that are ported in order to compensate for what it lacks when it comes to the bass. That doesn’t mean it has no bass, but when it is no Parasound JC1 either.
Pass labs 350.5: Wow, where do i begin? maybe my first time around with the xa30.8 wasn’t as special as it was with this monster 350.5. It is just SPECTACULAR sounding with my electrostatics. The bass was THE BEST BASS i have ever heard from ANY amp period. The only amp that comes close would be the jC1s. It made me check my settings to make sure the bass was not boosted and kept making my jaw drop each time i heard it. It totally destroyed the krell 402e in every regard. The krell sounded too "flat" when compared to this amp. This amp had amazing mirange with great detail up top. In my opinion, this amp is the best bang for the money. i loved this amp so much that i ended up buying the amp that follows below.

Pass labs 250.8: What can i say here. This is THE BEST STEREO AMP i have ever heard. This amp destroys all the amps i have listed above today to include the pass labs 350.5. It is a refined 350.5 amp. It has more 3d sound which is something the 350.5 lacked. It has a level of detail that i really have never experienced before and the bass was amazing as well. I really thought it was the most complete power amplifier i have ever heard HANDS DOWN. To me, this is a benchmark of an amplifier. This is the amp that others should be judged by. NOTHING is lacking and right now it is the #1 amplifier that i have ever owned.

My current amps are Mcintosh MC601s: i decided to give these 601s a try and they don’t disappoint. They have great detail, HUGE soundstage, MASSIVE power and great midrange/highs. The bass is great, but it is no pass labs 250.8 or 350.5. As far as looks, these are the best looking amps i have ever owned. No contest there. i gotta be honest with you all, i never bought mcintosh monos before because i wasn’t really "wowed" by the mc452, but it could have been also because at that time i was using a processor as a preamp which i no longer do. Today, i own the Mcintosh C1100 2 chassis tube preamp which sounds unbelievable. All the amps i just described above have been amps that i auditioned with the C1100 as a preamp. The MC601s sound great without a doubt, but i will say that if you are looking for THE BEST sound for the money, these would not be it. However, Mcintosh remains UNMATCHED when it comes to looks and also resale value. Every other amp above depreciates much faster than Mcintosh.

That said, my future purchase (when i can find a steal of a deal) will be the Pass labs 350.8. I am tempted to make a preliminary statement which is that i feel this amp could be THE BEST stereo amp under 30k dollars. Again, i will be able to say more and confirm once i own it. I hope this update can help you all in your buying decisions!


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I have watched the latest Youtube.
It makes sense that Jay has chosen to request a assessment and second opinion of his present 'in use' system.
It makes more sense that he has chosen a individual with a known history in being familiar with some of the Brands being auditioned, as well as being familiar with some of the Brands that have been superseded. 

To get the type of experience that Jay has wanted to represent him in a third party assessment of his latest guise of system and presentations offered to the Public.
He has obviously chosen a person whose Professional Views are trusted by himself.
In this case a Guy called Mike who is affiliated with South Coast Audio.
During his career he has obviously developed a ear for various presentations on offer from Hi End Devices and experienced the Devices in a variety of environments. 

Mike has made a claim on one of his perceptions of the replay,
that has stuck with me more than his other descriptions. 
The reference made to the 'Transparency' that he has perceived in the Performance of the 'M6'.

My HiFi experience has been evolving, so very similar to most enthusiasts experiences.
During the times of exposure to new experiences and investigations undertaken, a individual finds a direction they wish to pursue.

The Road Divide's for most Enthusiasts, this is not because they have found their Holy Grail System.
It is most commonly down to, 'how much colour' they like to perceive in their System..
The range of colour a individual is willing to tolerate is a unique condition, and only the individual can select the perceivable intrusion of noticeable colour they are satisfied with.

Mike also made the statement that the Pre>Power Combo with the Pass Power Amp was exceptional.
I am making the assumption this Combo was responsible for the Transparency that he had perceived.
He also shared that a Valve device used as a alternative might add to a perception of added colour.

I myself have heard another Brand of Speakers known for their Transparency, used with SS Pre > Power Amp's and Valve Pre > Amp's as well as other configurations.
I myself prefer a perceived Transparency in a presentation from a system, and have worked with maintaining this for many years.

Varying the Configurations of the above Amplification have always maintained the perception of Transparency,
even though there are noticeable changes when devices are exchanged.
As Mike claimed there are ways to change the Flavour/Seasoning. 

From a personal View,  when a Transparent Presentation is Wed to,
the created system offers a presentation that is difficult to detract from.    
         
I’m dropping my mbl prediction - now kinda doubting that those would make sense (ya, I know this is confusing to follow).

I actually now think it could be possible that the mystery amps already in WC’s room could already be Gryphon Solo Mephisto (which was part of my initial guess but was targeted for June, not now), either that or my real initial guess of Audio Research.

Stay chill, WC. Easier said than done but you’re usually pretty good at it.

Techno, I’m no angel either but no need to be difficult just for the sake of it. As I said previously, you should be giddy (or did I say "jolly?") now given your disdain for Wilson Audio and it’s now-3-week absence from the room. Cheer up, dude! You don’t know how long it’ll be until a new Wilson returns, as it inevitably will given that WC likes Wilson so much better than anything else : ) (see, I try to tweak him too sometimes : ), can’t help it) Save your crabiness for when the Wilson returns dude!
Inna, you said "I will take used Accuphase class A integrated over new Luxman every day" Can you please elaborate on this? Did you hear latest Luxman 590axII?. Currently I have accuphase e-800 and luxman 590axII. And I would say that it depends on the speakers. On my Sonus Faber I prefer Luxman. More involving with bigger sounstage, better dynamics and the same level of details. Accuphase has great synergy with B&W speakers. Overall (to me) it possess great tonality but more suitable for more near field, intimate listening. It generates very delicate, refined sound, but its less involving than Luxman. The Accuphase class A separates like A-75 and A-250 monos and their top models pre-amps are the different ball game so.
WC had an Accuphase integrated and didn’t like it at all is my recollection. You can find the video on his YT channel. Don’t recall the Accuphase model.

By contrast, WC said the Luxman L590AXII is the best amplifier (integrated or otherwise) available that he has had under $12k msrp, and he said that right after reviewing the Pass Labs $12k msrp integrated, whichever one that is (Pass int-250 I think).

You can see his video where WC declares the 590AXII one of his top 3 amps for bang for buck (along with m900u and Gryphon Constellation), and his comment on L590AXII being better than anything at $12k or lower msrp came in direct response to me asking him that question on this thread, maybe 80 pages back, haha
To me luxman 590axii class A is better than pass int-250. And I had pass int-250 twice in my system. Pass may be a little more dynamic, but luxman is more organic with great bass and details. It does not have that harshness/hardness that many class AB (with exception of megabuck amplifiers) have. A while ago I made a comment that out of many integrated I had in my house (accuphase e-800, e-470, plinius hiato, gamut 150 le, pass int-60 and plass int-250, luxman 509x, gryphon diablo 300 and some others) I rated accuphase e-800 as number one followed by luxman 590axii and Gryphon. After many hours of listening in my system to me now the luxman 590axii takes number one spot (again for me) on that list followed by Gryphon 300 and pass int-250. Of course speaker matching/synergy is a must.