Thiel Owners

A pair of Thiel Passive Crossover PX05's are listed on Canuck  
<https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649715447-theil-passive-crossover-px05-pair/?utm_campaign=sa...> 

The ad describes these PX05's as specifically configured for Thiel 3.7's. I downloaded the manual for the PX05. I realize the intent of the PX05 is for use with Thiel subwoofers.

My question is:  Would there be any benefit of these PX05's interfaced instead with a pair of NOn-Thiel SVS SB 16 Ultra subwoofers?

The rest of my existing system is:

Thiel CS 3.7's - left + right
5- Thiel PowerPoint 1.2's - center, surround, rear
4 - Thiel PowerPlane 1.2s - Atmos ceiling
Anthem AVM-60 PrePro
Conrad Johnson Premier 17 LS2 Stereo Preamp
Conrad Johnson 350SA Amplifier
Anthem A-5 amplifiers for surround + Atmos ceiling speakers.

Chris

cargen

Good to see you again. Stay tuned until one of the Thiel XO experts chimes in. What brand(s) of cabling are you using in your systems ?

Happy Listening!

tomthiel

Thank You for the follow up on the other SCD-1 player.
Safe travels.

Happy Listening!

Perhaps semantics but I think of electronics responsible for “black backgrounds”. I suppose the analog in the speaker realm is “transparency”.

IMO, Thiels are generally very transparent. That was one of the strengths of my 1.6s. That said, I heard a subtle “glassy” quality in the midrange when I bought my 2.4SEs in 2018. It might have been the FST-sourced crossovers (lower quality parts compared to crossovers built at the Lexington shop) or, maybe, damaged resistors (the OEM resistors showed evidence of overheating when I replaced them). That quality was mostly, if not completely, remedied by the Mills resistors. And my final boards not only have zero trace of that anomaly but the transparency is topshelf, equivalent to the very be$t speakers I’ve heard.

It could be that your 2.4s are more revealing flaws in your electronics rather than the other way around.

mrpostfire - I concur with beetlemaina, and can add a few further thoughts. I’ve been critically assessing Thiel speakers for future improvement - so I’ve developed a pretty good handle on them recently, additional to my lived experience in Thiel’s first 20 years and professional use of CS2.2s until the present. Rather than speculating on what you might be hearing, I’ll ask a question. Have you tried to isolate your problem sound to one speaker and/or one driver? It is possible that a voice coil might be slipping on its former. When that happens via over-work / heat, there is a raspy, hazy noise both from the physical motion of the voice coil as well as the large non-linearities of the diaphragm motion vs the input signal. I ask in order to differentiate between a problem and a general observation of "less black". Please supply more information because your commentt runs contrary to the general assessment of Thiel speakers and my experience relative to many peer brands.