Why not horns?

tpreaves2,633 posts05-22-2010 9:55am

it seems like a no-brainer that everyone would want this performance

.I find most horns too "in the face" for my likin

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I was very interested in the new 18 Sound horns, and such, weighing in at 8-15 lbs each.
Richard screamed at me,,**Those are for concerts, they'll rip your ears off***
He also suggested I avoid JBL's as they are too aggresive,
Especailly as he knows i like very near field listening, low volume.
, small room.
I have a  gut feeling the  Jensen purchase was a  good deal. These Jensen Mid horns are rare/hard to find. 
Paid $250/pair

unsound6,882 posts05-22-2010 11:01amI absolutely loathe horns!

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So lets have  this shootout
Seas Millennium tweeter, worlds finest mid tweeter.
vs a  high quality  early 1960's american made horn.
Horn will annihilate any /all dome tweeters.
db sens is what makes horns~~~ far~~~ superior to any tweeter from Seas and Scanspeak. 

bjpd57a196 posts05-22-2010 1:10pm


Properly set-up, the Horn speaker, is capable of uncanny

realism.


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I am a Horn Believer
And this conviction in what you claim is true, based ONLY from a  tweeter horn witha  2.2 Mundorf cap (set up right?? who knows)) the Magnovox Alnico which came out of the old console cabinets,,
This is the highs I've laways  wanted in my system. 
My guess is the early 60's american made horns will annihilate any dome tweeter from Seas and Scanspeaker, this due to horns higher sens at say,,97ishdb.
Whereas tweeters comming from Seas and scanspeak are below 91db, = Dinasaurs. 
Realism 
vs  
A faint echo.
Dome tweets leave so much music behind, 
Horns will give every tiny nuance = realism. 

macrojack OP1,300 posts05-23-2010 9:55am


 and permits us to get back to the topic of "WHY NOT HORNS?".


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My answer is
Because no one TOLD me about horns. 
I was like so many here, not thinking ~~Outside The Box~~ = box being box xover/low sens traditional dinsaur speaker designs.
Had Richard Gray NOT suggested I try a horn, to this day I would  be left in the dark about horns superior musical voicing.
My horn project will take me up to the place I can afford the Voxativ AC1A's at $1900, maybe late this year.
It will be a  midrange shootout
Midrange horn vs Voxativ AC1A. 
My hunch is the horn will be sold off.
I may end up keeping the Magnovox tweeter horn with the Vox AC1A for highs.
Again
Horns Rule.
But which horns?
The new masive rock concert horns are not for me.
I  am looking for nuances, subtility., Not horns that will **rip your head off* as Richard Gray likes to say. 
Richard mentioned the JBL's are too aggressive for his ears. 
Post man just droped off the Jensen 1960;'s Midrange horn...
later.............................

hummm these Jesnen 1960's horns came witha  tiny  thin brass voice horn,, the driver iteslf is at least 2 lbs and has a nice huge alnico magnet,, sounded a  bit harsh, not too clean,,have to get with Ricahrd Gray see if he can make some adjustments. 
Let me  read through this thread,,see whats up in the world of horns past 10 years.