Tubes for Magnepan’s.


I think next up on my acquisition list is a tube amplifier. I'm not looking for the be all end all, cause I don’t think there is a definitive "Best", so am looking for as good as I can get for $3-4k.


Because tubes drive speakers so much more efficiently than solid state I am only looking for 40-50 watts to drive my modded Maggie’s, 1.7i's. (Or what you have when you add a new crossover and planer tweeters to 1.7i's.) Maybe 2.7x? I haven’t settled on that yet. And I have some Zu Dirty Weekend's upgraded to the max coming in in 2 months to replace my KEF's.

Anyway, I haven’t had a tube device since my Halicrafter short wave radio, and reviews are not the same as advice from people that own something. There is a Rouge Audio dealer in my area, last I looked, (opps, they no longer carry them), so I may have to go to another market to hear something, or get a try before you buy from a manufacturer or dealer.

You folks have taught me a lot, and I think asking users is the right thing to do on this change in direction.

Thanks in advance.
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@secretguy 

Why the tweeter array? 

The tweeter on the 1.7i is serviceable at best. Since they don’t make the 2. series anymore with the ribbon tweeter, and I have good subs, so don’t need the additional bass of the 3.7i panel, why spend $4k more?

When it comes right down to it, the 1.7i might be the best midrange driver on the planet. 😉

These tweeters take it to a whole nother level, and don’t break the bank like Rhaal ribbons or Mundorf AMT's would.

https://www.parts-express.com/GRS-PT5010-8-10-Planar-Mid-Tweeter-8-Ohm-272-130
I have never heard one and can’t recall anyone on here bring them up. Vincent hybrid amps have always been something I would like to look at. They have combined ss and tubes into a single amp. Could be what you need. Only sorry I can’t give a hands on recommendation. I do have a Freya and it has left me not searching for anything else. I rolled the factory gain tubes out for chrome top bad boys and it is fantastic. Would love tetefunkins but do not want to pay 800 per tube.
@sgreg1


Yes, I have been intrigued by Vincent, but don't like the fact that they are built in Shina. The PS Audio BHK concept at a better price point.


This is in the "fiddling" price range though if I ever get a wild hair, or when this series comes up used somewhere. Of course they make better ones, and there is always the tube premium for the Automatic Tube Upgrade necessity.

I bought a Schiit Lyr with the phono pre onboard for my studio and when I upgraded to the old RCA Red, about ‘58? it added definition to the mid's.


https://upscaleaudio.com/products/vincent-audio-sa-32-tube-hybrid-preamplifier
@jjss49  I am not sure where you are getting your information.

When I was a dealer in the 1970's-80's, Jim Winey and Bill Johnson had a marketing agreement and displayed, sold, and marketed their products in tandem.  You may wish to ask Diller (at Magnepan now, being run by Jim's son last I heard).  He was the marketing person at Audio Research in those days and was the one on the road demoing and pushing the two.

I sold lots of combo systems of these two brands, and have yet to hear a better combination.  Period.  (We also made some oak stands and 22" Hartley woofer cabs for the Mark Levinson HQD system, which was pretty sophisticated for the times. The HQD system was, to be kind, not good.)

FYI, Audio Research made the EC-21 tube crossover specifically set for Magneplaner Tympani I-C speakers, which is a setup I use to this day, albeit with some updated Audio Research gear.

Possibly you should check to see some earlier information regarding Magneplaners and tubes. 

I suggest that ANYONE looking for a "high-end" system have their dealer bring these companies' products to their rooms and give them a listen.  They may not like the results IN THEIR ROOM, but at least they will have heard a system that is as accurate as it gets before making a final purchase decision.

Cheers!
@richopp

@jjss49 I am not sure where you are getting your information.

When I was a dealer in the 1970’s-80’s, Jim Winey and Bill Johnson had a marketing agreement and displayed, sold, and marketed their products in tandem.


i get my information from my own experiences, and when i share my opinions here that is the source

i have owned maggies and many arc tube amps over the years (currently own 6 of them, ranging from v70 vt60 vt100 and ref 75 and 110)

just because you sold maggies w arc as systems 40-50 years ago doesn’t mean they are a perfect combination