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Has anyone added a Master Clock to UpTone EtherREGEN Yet? It’s Insane!


Would love to hear from anyone that has added a master clock to their UpTone Audio EtherREGEN? 
I wanted to start a thread and get some of your feedback. It is truly a system changing upgrade! 
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Full Disclosure: I own CTronic Music Boston - Distributor for AfterDark. 


I started this company after I purchased an AfterDark Queen Master Clock and hooked it to my EtherREGEN and it blew me away! Right off my listening chair. I mean I was absolutely amazed! Every single customer has been absolutely blown away and I wanted to hear from other folks. Maybe using another brand or have tried it and I want to hear from them. Stereotimes has just finished a professional review and he was blown away. The reviewer was so impressed he has bought much more gear from me. I am hoping to hear from others. 


Below is my audio system for reference. 

Associated Reference Equipment


Digital Sources: Bricasti Design M1 Special Edition MDx DAC w/Optional Network Card / Roon Endpoint Player, D/A Converter, Network Music Player; Antipodes S40 Music Server with v5.2H board (K30 music player engine) and Antipodes S60 External p Power Supply (HSL50-based Hybrid Power Supply, Network Music Server; iPad Air running Roon 1.8, Remote; UpTone Audio EitherREGEN; Network Audio Switch, Network Re-Clocker ; AfterDark OCXO Emperor Double Crown 10MHz Master Clock (75ohm, SinWave w/Mini Circuit BLP 10.7+ BNC  Low Pass Filter, Master Clock.


Power Supplies : Uptone Audio JS-2 (2-rails), AfterDark Modernize LPS x 2 (2-rails), Wyred 4 Sound PS-1 (4-rails), Antipodes S60 HSL-50 Hybrid Power Supply (2-rails) Breeze Audio LPS (1-rail) iFi iPower DC Power Supply,  


Amplifier / Preamplifier:  Ypsilon Phaethon Integrated Amplifier:  A discrete, active preamp section sporting a pair of 6H30-DR super-tubes (PST 100mk2) that features transformer based volume attenuation. The preamp is matched to a pair of Aelius mono-blocks, class a, solid state. Michael Fremer from Stereophile described this preamp as the most perfect and transparent audio device he has EVER heard.    


Loudspeakers: Focal Sopra 2 Loudspeakers in Walnut / Mat Black; These were chosen over the 3’s, Scala Evo’s and Magico S5 MKII for their exceptional ability to play most like a mini-monitor yet still offering close to full range reference performance.


Cables: Digital: Cardas Clear RJ/E, Linear Soulution RJ/E, Audioquest Vodka/Cinnamon/Forest RJ/E Cables, (Ethernet); Black Cat Silver Star 75, DH Labs Silver Sonic D-75, Tara Labs Prism 100-dx-1, MIT Terminator-3, (S/PDIF); Audioquest Chocolate 1.0M / Forrest 3.0M, (HDMI); AfterDark Eva Reference BNC 0.5M (Clock Cable); Apogee Electronics Wyde-Eye BNC 6”(Clock Cable), AfterDark Base BNC .05M (Clock Cable) (BNC) Interconnects: Nordost Frey 2 XLR 1.0M, Nordost Baldor XLR 1.0M (Balanced); Darwin Ascension 2.5’ RCA. Canare 1.0M (2),(RCA), (Single Ended); Speaker Cables: Nordost Frey 2 (4-Meters), AudioQuest Type-4/6 (3-meters), (Power AC Cables): Audience AU24SE HP 1.0M,  Zu Audio Event MKI 1.5M (3), Echole Obsession 1.0M, (DC Cables): Ghent Audio 0.5M (4), Uptone Audio 1.0M, AfterDark Black River 0.5M,

Accessories: Equipment Rack: Solid Tech ROS Model4 Reference Audio Rack, (Isolation Platforms): SRA: Silent Running Audio: Ohio Class XL+ Isolation Platform, Synergistic Research Tranquility Basik SR20 w/Silver Tuning Bullet, Solid Tech Small TT Isolation Platforms, (Sundries): Red Dragon Audio Ceramic Cable Platforms, (Room Treatments): Synergistic Research Acoustic Field Generator - Atmosphere Mini Tower with Synergistic Research Atmosphere ATM Red Tuning Bullet and (15) Synergistic Research HTF‘s; (Footers, Weights and Vibration Clamps): Synergistic Research MiG 2.0 Couplers, IsoAcoustics Iso-Pucks (12), Aluminati Stainless 2.75 pound weights, Eden Sound Solid Brass weights, (AC Power Distribution and Protection): Furutech GTX-R Outlet, Oyaide R-1 Beryllium Outlets (2), PS Audio Noise Harvesters (6), Blue Circle Yalu-Balula Spike Protection (4), (Filterless Power Distribution: Synergistic Research Tesla QLS-6, PS Audio Juice Bar MK II and Audioquest IEC-3, (Filters: Low Pass and Network) Mini Circuits BLP 10.7+ 75Ohm BNC Filter, Merlin Audio Zobel Network Filters

- Fsmithjack 






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fsmithjack OP
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It absolutely pulverizes any CD player. My system as it is - you can add a CD Player, any CD Player at any cost and it will crush it. If you live local come over my house and you can listen. If you are worried don’t be there is a 30 trial period and a 2 year warranty. 

What it does is this. 
It makes streaming audio sound much better. 
Much better then it did before, much better then CD. 
I mean my streamer was better then CD even before EtherREGEN or master clock. 

Once you get yourself a nice, proper streamer from the likes of (Antipodes, Lumin, Auralic, Aurender, Bricasti, SGC, Innuos, Naim, SOtM) and there are others things start to pop and CD players start to fade. Now start developing your system as a whole and your network with really good, upgraded Ethernet and CD cabling, linear power supplies to replace every single SMPS for everything. Routers, WIFI, Switches, etc. and you them you finer optic devices and and EtherREGENs and Master Clocks and you have left CD players in the dust heap is history. 

Thanks 
clearthink
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pjb255livecom"I only stream music (Qobuz), and am looking to begin optimizing the digital signal chain.But I'm having difficulty conceiving of improvements being so drastic, because the improvements as described appear to exceed the capabilities of playing an equivalent CD. Am I wrong?"


You could just listen and then you would know for yourself
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rikkipuu
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I agree adding a clock to the ER has a very positive effect.  I also found placing the ER closest to an Innuos Statement the best place.  I moved my EE 8Switch from that position after adding the clock and it was obvious the ER was best closest to the Statement.

I have an ENO Ag filter between the ER and Statement and it is amazing.
I am using a Mutec Ref10 for both an ER and a SOtM switch that sits between the ER and 8Switch.

Funny thing happened after adding the Mutec.  I had the Roon core on an Antipodes Core off the SOtM switch, but after adding the Mutec going back to Experimental mode on the Statement was better than separating the core and player and also better than Experimental mode without the Mutec.  I dont understand that.

All this has made a huge and I mean huge improvement streaming Tidal or Qobuz, however CD's ripped to the Statement always sounds better than streamed from Tidal or Qobuz in my system.  Playing downloaded Hi-Rez and especially DSD makes for a bigger delta.

I am waiting for Innuos2.0 to move on from Roon, maybe Tidal and Qobuz will improve then, but I will have to hear it to believe it that streaming sounds better.
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lxgreen
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Can you clarify the positions of your clock, switch, and ER? I have an afterdark ER clock, and their cascade switch arriving next week. They advised the following positions:

Clocked ER>Clocked switch>Roon server.  The ER  and clocks all have LPS. The server/player is an antipodes K50>AES/EBU>Bricasti M12. This, of course, is contrary to the uptone recommendation to have ER closest to server
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fsmithjack OP
712 posts
 
Very nice rig - K50 + M12 = :) 
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