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Upper Level Vintage DD Strenghts and Weaknesses

All of these tables have been discussed in some form or another here over the years. I have read quite a few threads on them, but its a bit difficult to nail this point down.

Basically I am looking for a non-suspended table to install a Dynavector DV505 arm on, and these tables can fit the bill.

The most widely available is a Denon DP 75 or DP 80 in a Denon plinth, and they are perhaps the most affordable also. Are there any of their plinths that are desirable, or are they just a veneered stack of MDF or plywood?

While more expensive I can find a Sony TTS8000 in a Resinamic plinth although shipping from HK is expensive. There is one thread I came across here where a member who restores tables says two of the three TTS8000 he has done had play in the spindle assembly which looked to be wear in the brass bushings of the motor. That does make me pause in concern.

The JVC TT101 is not only difficult to find, its apparently a bit of a bear to get serviced, so its not high on the list.

The Technics SP 10 MK II I have owned, and its a nice table but to be honest I had a Denon DP75 that I felt actually sounded better. Also the models that are out there are either abused or have a premium price tag attached to them. Also I don’t need instant torque, and I think the bi-servo designs might offer better speed control.

As I write this the Denon and Sony seem to be at the top of the list, unless there is another I should be looking at.
neonknight
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pindac
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I'm seeing references being made on conjecture as to the effect a Suspension Support/ Footer can offer to a Device, which is suggesting the use of one is to be detrimental to a performance.
It would be a much more Valid statement if the claimes were supported by I have used the types of Support/Footer being discussed and during my usage I did not detect any of the merits they are receiving from other users.

Experiences of individuals who have used the Support/Footers are being reported on within this Thread.
Where the evidence of having used the Support is perceived as a
'actual' occurrence has been noticed, and one for the betterment of the device being supported.

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clearthinker
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"Townsend is talking about vibration coming from the earth up into the speakers."

"That's what I need to prevent happening up to my TT from my springy floors, vibration any fool can feel."

I hope max isn't suggesting it is the planet vibrating (mass of 5.972 × 10^24 kg); I know he has had some strange ideas.  Assuming not, the remedy is not to use rooms with 'springy floors' for listening.  You can never make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.  All you will do is build up the boing.  Boing floors; boing footers, your speakers will be rolling around.
The simple and best solution is to connect speakers directly to concrete floor laid on the ground, as @lewm so rightly says.  Best for turntables and amps too.  If you are a flat dweller it can be tough.
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chakster
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Vibration from the Earth ? Go to any professional studio and see how the main monitors mounted. Look at Rey Audio for example. The monitors are installed in the wall or placed on a wooden stands (on the floor). There are NO esoteric anti-vibration platforms anywhere. 
neonknight OP
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UM you guys do realize this was a discussion about upper end DD drive units? 
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The OP has made it known there is a Short List for the Vintage DD.
Also the OP made a reference to specific Plinth Materials.
The selection of Footers for a Plinth when matched correctly is a Marriage made in HiFi Heaven.
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