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Upper Level Vintage DD Strenghts and Weaknesses

All of these tables have been discussed in some form or another here over the years. I have read quite a few threads on them, but its a bit difficult to nail this point down.

Basically I am looking for a non-suspended table to install a Dynavector DV505 arm on, and these tables can fit the bill.

The most widely available is a Denon DP 75 or DP 80 in a Denon plinth, and they are perhaps the most affordable also. Are there any of their plinths that are desirable, or are they just a veneered stack of MDF or plywood?

While more expensive I can find a Sony TTS8000 in a Resinamic plinth although shipping from HK is expensive. There is one thread I came across here where a member who restores tables says two of the three TTS8000 he has done had play in the spindle assembly which looked to be wear in the brass bushings of the motor. That does make me pause in concern.

The JVC TT101 is not only difficult to find, its apparently a bit of a bear to get serviced, so its not high on the list.

The Technics SP 10 MK II I have owned, and its a nice table but to be honest I had a Denon DP75 that I felt actually sounded better. Also the models that are out there are either abused or have a premium price tag attached to them. Also I don’t need instant torque, and I think the bi-servo designs might offer better speed control.

As I write this the Denon and Sony seem to be at the top of the list, unless there is another I should be looking at.
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pindac
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The OP has made it known there is a Short List for the Vintage DD.
Also the OP made a reference to specific Plinth Materials.
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lewm
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These threads do tend to wander.  I am afraid I am a guilty party.  But c'est la vie and all that.
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best-groove
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I see only negative consequences, because some of the amplifier power delivered to drive the speaker diaphragm will then be used up in rocking the speaker back and forth.  
Do you think it is better to use hard feet like the Combak Harmonix in ebony? They work but they cost too much.
lewm
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I would not spend big bucks on feet for speakers, but I would have any speaker, particularly if it is expected to reproduce deep bass, well and stably mounted on the floor.  I recognize that sometimes there is a risk of acoustic coupling that can be undesireable, when the drivers get too close to the floor.  In that case, I would raise the speaker but still have it on a rigid stand of some sort.  But none of this requires ebony or Combak products.  For example, one of my systems uses Sound Labs 845PX, with a heavily modified crossover.  I added 80 lbs of weight on top of the back plate at the rear of the active panel, for each speaker, which sits on the OEM very ordinary feet that SL provides.  The added mass very audibly deepened and cleaned up the bass response.  I even considered bracing the whole 8-foot tall panel by running a piece of steel from the top of the speaker to anchor on the floor behind the back plate, but I never went that far.
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chakster
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I watched interview with Dynaudio engineer and this guy explained very well than speaker cabinet should NOT move with the woofers. I think suspended stands are horrible for lightweight speakers. 
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