I heard the Box

After boxes, english
esl s
its now ob
lii crystal 10 and w15
so far so good

...hard to tell hogs from merely swine....but just an ubsurdvation from this one....;)

Hearing the box is just the nature of the beast with box speaker vs open baffle designs.  And the way to hear the difference between boxed and open baffle is to do an A-B comparison.   And bring along a few tracks from a live recording in a concert hall.  My reference track is from Harry Belafonte's Carnegie hall concert.  The differences will be quite revealing.  Once you hear the box, it is hard to unhear it.   And the only solution is to go open baffle, or at least some hybrid combination like electrostatics and subs, or something like the Dalhquist DQ10.

"...blissful ignorance..."

Sanctuary.....until upset...  ;)

Not unusual....enjoy the upset. *s*

At the time the Dynaco speakers were popular, people expected to hear the box. Or maybe a better way to put it is that we didn’t expect NOT to hear the box. At that time, we bought a hifi system and expected it only to play records or cassettes in a loud and clear manner, as opposed to the absolute transparency and realism many of us expect from modern systems. Our expectations were lower and I don’t recall being disappointed with any of my older systems prior to my foray into the high end. IMO, that’s why some people with very high end systems sometimes have an additional vintage system in their office or wherever. It allows them to relax and just enjoy the music without the self-imposed pressure of getting everything perfect. Sort of like listening to a very good radio.  You just expect to hear music and that's what you get.