Blindfold Speaker testing


So if we made a  experiment where a  group of seasoned audiophiles had to choose  which speaker is best over all, 
6 brands all hidden behinda  curtain.
5 top dawgs in the xover box low sens design and 1 of the high sens PS design. How do you think the results will come out?
But we will not tell the group what speakers are behind the curtains, They will have no idea 1 of the speakers is Point Source. 
How do you think the, or lets say which 1 speaker do you think would come out on top?
No lets do this, Lets give the  group a  list of 5 speaker brands, Walsh, Wilson, Tannoy, and 2 others which are very popular, like Joseph with the Seas. 
and 1 more,
The mystery speaker is not listed, so they have no idea what speaker it is.
The ? speaker is the high sens Point Source.
Now Richard Gray hosts this *guess which speaker event* as he is a  master of these types of gimmicks and  has seasoned audiophiles fooled every single time.
Which speaker do you think will make top of the list in results??
I know.
The Mystery Speaker.
Then Richard pulls the curtain and reveals the winner.
 SURPRISEE
Got ya
The Hifi Guy


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tomic601
8,315 posts
06-24-2021 9:46pm
I think it’s a design of experiment sobriety test… how about we blindfold test between 6 pairs of vixatives, or whatever…

Yeah We could do some AER's, and Vox's Neo magnets + their Field Coils,, 
back in the 70's we had a  local shop which had a  room packed with speakers, 
i chose the 
Philips 2 way, High Fidelity, Wsh I had gone with the 3 way. 
Next to the Thors they sounded anemic,. 
The Thors sounded anemic next to various cheap chinese *full range/point source*,,and so its likea  shootout, Last speaker standing wins.
Yeah WE could do that. 
We test, judge and kick out the losers, til we get down to the final shootout. 
We all have to come to a consenus. 
Midrange, testing based only on midrange fq.s not bass, nor highs. 
I can get high fidelity in those fq's with no problem, Lots of good choices.
Its the midrange we are judging. 
If you look at the  fq chart for the Vox, its flat and no harsh  peaks and valleys. 
= You get all the music, with no distortion, 
Troels stays busy trying to tame the midrange with all sorts of xover components
YUCKKKK, 
can't stand xovers in midrange,. 
I am not going to purcahse the Vox for bass/highs, 
If they are there, well its a bonus. I am employing the high sens only for midrange, 1200hz=-10k.
From what I've read this area is where this driver really shines. 
So finally my dream sound is not long off, 
Been searching some 40 years. 
Its was only last year that i was made aware of what these Point Source are all about. 
The Ebay seller wrote back on one of my many Q's
**ohh no my speakers are not copies of Fostex or Lowther, we are cloning The Voxativ*. 
huh?
Whats that?
He went on to say, *My Top speaker is like 80% what a Vox is**,,, I thought,, no must be at least 90%*. Its most likely 80%, , china can  not copy that technology.  Sure  his top line are  only $500, so if your budget is tight, its  good deal. 
But its not what I am after. 
I am looking for The Real Deal. 
I've been under the impression that 'blind tests' are truly That....one goes into the routine with minimal knowledge of what items are being compared, with the exception of one 'given' item.
In this purposed scenario: an amp, the 'common element'....

One can 'get obsessive', and argue "Well, what's 'upstream of said amp?", but since the object is speakers...define the 'norm' and move on...

NO list of speakers.  Screw that.  That skews the responses from Sample One.  Stunts like an unknown used on multiple 'unknowns' R. Gray apparently pulled are flawed....'Carney tricks', pulled on the 'marks'....

Everything should be 'known', except for 'X', to test for 'X'.
Even then, 'X' needs to be 'rated' over the variables sought...for speakers, define what's being sought to prove, illuminate, define....etc.

A pointless exercise, otherwise...

Millers' movie clip demonstrates such....a stupid movie, overall, but apt...
And once you get any of the 5 speakers home, it will sound different in your room. The test is pointless. The true test is how the speaker will sound in your own room.