Peter Lederman in Second Bout With COVID-19
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MC, Your life must be very tense. If you take some time and check the source material available at the CDC website that is re-interpreted and incorrectly reported by ZeroHedge, you might be less angry at CDC and the "establishment" and more grateful for the vaccines. I and others cannot do it for you, because it is exhausting work, like playing whack-a-mole. If you have a specific question, I would be happy to answer it to the best of my knowledge and vast experience as an MD and a molecular virologist. But you are buried in a blizzard of lies and half-truths. To take on only this last report from ZeroHedge, the CDC has developed a new reporting system as of May, specifically targeted at detecting vaccine breakthrough cases, because they recognize that monitoring the rate of such an event is critical for predicting the emergence of resistant virus variants, if that should occur. Surely there are partially resistant strains extant even now, as you know. That is not a sinister or evil act on the part of CDC. Also, while it appears to be true that some sources count a positive RT-PCR in an asymptomatic person as a "case" (and I myself have been railing against that practice), that is not the formal definition of a case from either the FDA or the CDC point of view. See the CDC case definition from August, 2020. In the phase 3 clinical trials to determine vaccine efficacy, there were (and are for any ongoing studies) strict CLINICAL criteria which in addition to a positive RT-PCR were part of the case definition. Applying those criteria, the efficacy of the two mRNA vaccines was determined to be ~95% for the study groups. That is not 100%. That means one can still get COVID even after vaccination, but with a hugely diminished risk that that will happen. There is some good reason to criticize CDC for its behavior during the
first 2 months or so of 2020 as regards the RT-PCR tests used in the US,
because there were perfectly good test kits available from China and
Germany, yet the CDC insisted on relying upon US-based kit developers,
and yes some of those kits were crap. Did the CDC decision to refuse test kits from China or Germany have something to do with politics, ya think? It's not about what Ct value is taken as positive; it's about the formal process of validating any test kit. The validation process, which is arduous, determines what Ct value for that particular kit can be used as a cut-off for positivity. And yes, a Ct value of 40 or higher can almost never be taken seriously. There were a lot of governmental blunders in the early months, for sure. But in the end, you and those like you need to make up your mind what you believe. Is the virus a fraud? Is the virus real and an evil Chinese plot? Is the idea it caused a pandemic a fraud? Are the vaccines a corporate plot to make money and kill people willy nilly, or are they merely a fraud because after all there was no pandemic? And so on and so forth. It's very tiring. |
Meanwhile elsewhere... https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/oxford-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine.html |
Again, the amino acid sequence CGG-CGG occurs nowhere in nature. It is however used in gain of function research. And it is found in the CCP virus. Furin cleavage sites on the CCP virus enable it to enter human cells. This virus, which fake news tells us came from a bat, has amino acid sequences found in no bat virus, and it has a greater affinity for human cells than bat. The nonsense we have been fed, that many of you so strangely want to believe, is demonstrably false. Does anyone even know what I'm talking about? Cytosine? Anyone? Beuller? |
@retipper I am so glad you are recovering. Like @lewm I agree that even a single vaccination appears to protect those who have had SARS-CoV infections, and in cases of long haul COVID, sometimes largely ease lingering symptoms. Please continue to heal, and I also appreciate your poetry. Please let us know if there is anything we can do, in addition to buying and promulgating Soundsmith. @lewm I also used to be a molecular virologist (flu virus lab). Thank you for replying, esp. to MC, and others who might believe his claptrap. Remarkably, both mRNA vaccines have been shown to be at least partially effective against the delta variant, even though that variant wasn't around when the vaccines were designed. Newer pre-prints claim to show that vaccine induced immunity may be effective for several years. A remarkable job by many, and regardless of the viral origins, there's the undisputed fact that China should have realized what was going on with the outbreak (or did and covered up), and notified the world much earlier. Then perhaps a travel ban down may have proven effective, as was done for MERS and SARS initially. The problem with SARS-CoV is that the symptoms occur so much longer after infection, and mimic other conditions for a while... @millercarbon Please stop spouting this nonsense. You do everyone a grave disservice. You appear to be trolling, and didn't bother to spell whether correctly, so it appears you put little thought into your posts. |
I have tried my best to stay out of this fray, but after reading several of the recent posts from the past 48 hours, I feel obligated to clarify several pieces of “information” that have been posted as factual before they get deleted like the infamous “no excess deaths” post. Though the risks of death to individuals under the age of 40 is very low, the risk of hospitalization and the associated costs remain quite significant. If you can remember back in about February, the vaccine was first offered or “pushed” if you prefer, to those who were the most at risk, including the aged, health care workers, and those with underlying conditions. Only now that most from the first groups are vaccinated, it is being “pushed” to the less susceptible younger age groups because they are more reluctant to get vaccinated. Though they might get a milder case of Covid19, they will be spreading it to older and more susceptible individuals while they are infected. The vaccines work remarkably well. The idea that the vaccine is causing increased cases of Covid19 is drivel. By all accounts, Wikipedia, Oxford, Merriam-Webster, an mRNA vaccine is a vaccine – a biological preparation used to elicit an immune response, and is listed as such. To claim otherwise is nonsense. As long as I can remember, following a vaccination of any type, I have been asked to wait for a period of time for observation purposes. It said so on all the vaccine info sheets. The problems of developing a vaccine for HIV have been addressed in an earlier post with a very appropriate link. The rapidity with which the Covid19 vaccines were developed is more a testament to the advancement in medical scientific research and the promise of mRNA vaccine technology, than a commentary on economic drive. The amino acid sequence CGG-CGG is not an amino acid sequence at all, and would not be identified as such by anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of cell biology. C and G are nucleotide bases, and when arranged as these two triplets, code for a repeat of the amino acid arginine. The nucleotide sequence CGGCGG in fact does occur in nature and is a part of the nucleic acid sequence of fragile X syndrome (FMR1) gene of human origin. In January 2021, a publication found over 6101 unique CGG polymorphic repeats in a study of 544 human whole genomes analyzed. But, I digress. I suspect that the claim mentioned was misconstrued somewhere along the line by someone not understanding the details of a recent article (June 8th) in the WSJ or one of the many other rehash articles, which state that CGGCGG is not found in any other naturally occurring Coronavirus. A researcher would be hard pressed to publish a gene function paper in any peer reviewed journal in the fields of cell biology, molecular biology, biochemistry, etc. without doing appropriate gain-of-function and corresponding loss-of function studies. They are conducted in all major public and private institutions that have labs that compete for government funding and publications. There is nothing sinister about modifying, inhibiting, or adding a gene to a virus, an organism or a cell line to see if it responds as predicted to advance worthwhile understanding. In the case of a virus capable of infecting humans, these studies can demonstrate how the virus binds to human cells, what receptors or cell surface markers, or conversely what viral spike proteins might be involved and how the process might be inhibited. The linked article about the CDC getting caught red handed changing the thresholds of positivity as though it is something nefarious, even states that the changes were described on the CDC website. If one were to just check, the rational for doing so is clear and is described in a pertinent post above. In short, many of the posts above are not close to being factual, or at best, represent one-off anecdotal occurrences. Many come from right wing conspiracy theory and outrageous claim clickbait sites. I expect better. |
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