Best Speaker for classical music

while your argument is fundamentally sound, only Jazz and Classical are typically performed without electronic support. Rock, Pop, Reggae, and even ELP always went through large speaker arrays with multiple crossovers and other electronic aids in the transmission chain.

@antigrunge2

If the bands were performing live that's likely true. But when recorded, often not. The bands are keenly aware of how PAs wreck the sound! We don't use a PA when recording our band. When you listen to that King Crimson LP I just mentioned its obvious they used a minimal mic'ing technique. Pink Floyd recorded an album for the BBC that used only a Decca tree, same as they might have used for an orchestra. That album is arguably their best recorded but they've always had a good studio technique.


If you get a nice import copy of the Beatles stuff, even though its not real stereo its obvious they cared a lot about the sound. I've used Porcupine Tree as demos at shows for years. I also use the first Its a Beautiful Day LP because everyone seems to have heard White Bird- and its nice to demo what it really sounds like.


Some years back on this thread I mentioned Black Sabbath- their LP is a solid demo of how you don't have to have acoustic instruments to nevertheless get a good recording. What is important in recording regardless of the genre is **intention**. 

Talk to James at Raven Audio. https://www.ravenaudio.com/

He designed and developed the CeLest and Corvus monitors and tower. He is a audio engineer and a classically trained musician.
He has worked the DSO and many many Grammy winning AE and Conductors.

You owe it to your self to hear these speakers.

@atmasphere,

fair enough, they did though use elctric guitars and keyboards in the studio as far as I can tell. My point is actually about frequency band overlaps and phase shifts as a result of crossovers and electronic enhancements in the transmission chain,, both on recordings and playback. Most studios don’t even care about absolute polarity much, a significant number of recordings are out of polarity and you hear it on a good system.

antigrunge2551 posts06-30-2021 2:55pmRalph,

while your argument is fundamentally sound, only Jazz and Classical are typically performed without electronic support. Rock, Pop, Reggae, and even ELP always went through large speaker arrays with multiple crossovers and other electronic aids in the transmission chain. For acoustical music, any break in the frequency responce or -horrible thought- phase shifts in the audible spectrum severely interfere with one‘s enjoyment. So: ideally horn or other single driver systems, if need be two-ways, anything more complex usually doesn‘t get there.

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OK now we are getting somewhere. 
One  of the things that perked my attention to these single wide band, was the higher senstivity.
Which factor may help allow some of the hidden subtle passges spread throughout Schnittke, Pettersson, Henze.
There is ~~alot~~~ more things going on in the redcording, which at times are getting crushed by blaring brass, massive cresendos, Like in Ravel Daphne and Chloe. 
Fora  year+ I racked my brains, as to how is it possible to give  more voice to these jems covered over in some, if m=not most, of my cd collection.

Stay on Seas web site daily, looking and looking. 
Then I recall seeing these odd things on Ebay called **Full range/wide band drivers***, maybe I should take  a  closer look,.
After choosing several,  witha  next day sale, 1/2 price on ebay,,I decided to go one step price wise up, $200 pair. 4 inch. 
Here is what I was looking for. Sure its not going to cut it, its onlya  temp til i get cash for a  real deal wide band. 
The ebay seller gave me a tip as to what his drivers are **clones* of.
That was the very 1st time I heard the name of the wide band which is on my wish list, september.

*Be all/end all* = represents all 100% fq's?? Not looking for this feat.
Classical music, full open orchestra is hardly below 60hz, not much above say, 10khz. 
Looking for something that can compete with Seas's very best 4 inch *Dedicated*  midranges. 
It was a  very long search, and had to think through this sort of *puzzle*, after I heard the word of the  lab, very next second research began. 
Here is something I  found, just now.
I've heard many YT uploads of wide bands, and each one has impressed me. But  this one goes further. 
I was convinced there isa  sub attached somehow to this speaker, and so looked into the specs 
Come to find out, no sub.
Looks like my plans to hold on to the dual Seas W19E001's as glorious bass, will not be needed. To my chargin, as i put alottt of cash intom the new Mundorf xovers and the bass is exceptional. 
Yet  if the bass is even close to what i think I'm hearing in this vid, the Excel mids will ,,sadly, have to go.
Another issue  here is **power source**, 
I got a  note from a  USA dealer, PP amps would work just fine with this driver. 
But a  100 watter??
Could be trouble ahead. 
I have no plans whatsoever to sell the Defy7. 
These mismatched components,will just have to learn to get along. 

They have been around alottt longer than I imagined

https://www.stereophile.com/content/voxativ-ampeggio-loudspeaker


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCwyMZ_bKRo

My tech geek advised, cabinet construction might present some work/budget.
I'll get them up N running 1st, temp cabinet,  then he and I will figure out  a  design that I can follow. I am no cabinet maker, thats for sure. 

antigrunge2552 posts06-30-2021 5:28pm@atmasphere,

 My point is actually about frequency band overlaps and phase shifts as a result of crossovers

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Yes this is important/critical in a   a  plethora of mid fq;s comming out ofa  full symphony orchestra. 
Seas *dedicated midrange* althougha   great driver for all jazz, a  blast of a  orchestra will be a  symphonic overload. 

I'me guessing Vox has made extenive testing on how they want mids to come across.
My tech geek mention this same **over load** might be (= will be) heard in this wide band as well. *crack up/distortion*
He has been around countless FR/wide band speakers, horns primarily.
But has not heard these newer designs, 
This will be the ultimate test, full *grunge* symphonic orchestra passages.