The plasma tweeters I have heard put the AMTs to shame. As andy points out certain tweeters require a very steep crossover which dictates aspects of the speaker's design which may or may not be to your liking. Not a fan of high order crossovers as a whole. So the tweeter itself means nothing without looking at the speaker as a whole.
The best tweeter is no tweeter
In a recent review in Stereophile for the Elac Carina over an AMT based speaker (I’m a fan of AMTs by the way) the author, Herb Reichert, makes this statement:
and then he goes on to list some speakers with AMTs, some of which I like, some of which I hate, which he feels share the same qualities. And it got me thinking about something as I hook up my home theater again. In my mind, the very best tweeters are completely invisible and transparent. I do not suggest you should use a single-driver, full ranger with a whizzer, heavens no. That’s just wrong (grin) and a clear cry for help.
What I am suggesting is that in the very best tweeters in the world, of which some are AMTs, and many are not, you simply cannot tell what they are.
That is, they are absolutely transparent. You do not perceive sound emanating from them at all. Music is just there, in front of you. Some of these are ring radiators that are really reasonably priced. Some are German or Spanish AMTs, some are diamond or Be tweeters.
In fact, my home theater has both ring radiators and AMTs in them, both of which may be found among the most prestigious brands of speakers. Though they have entirely different operating principles and materials, their performance is absolutely seamless. I barely use EQ except for the sub and center due to the latter’s location on a shelf. What both of these tweeters share is incredibly smooth output (unlike crappy AMTs or Be tweets) that is flat to beyond 20 kHz.
Please, buy what you like, but to me, if you want to talk about a world class driver, it’s not one you can sit in front of and say "aha! I know this is an Aluminum/Be/Diamond/AMT tweeter!!"
If you can tell the type of tweeter you are listening to, I can assure you it is not among the best in the world.
My personal experience suggests that the overall sound of any loudspeaker is greatly determined by the designer’s choice of tweeter.
and then he goes on to list some speakers with AMTs, some of which I like, some of which I hate, which he feels share the same qualities. And it got me thinking about something as I hook up my home theater again. In my mind, the very best tweeters are completely invisible and transparent. I do not suggest you should use a single-driver, full ranger with a whizzer, heavens no. That’s just wrong (grin) and a clear cry for help.
What I am suggesting is that in the very best tweeters in the world, of which some are AMTs, and many are not, you simply cannot tell what they are.
That is, they are absolutely transparent. You do not perceive sound emanating from them at all. Music is just there, in front of you. Some of these are ring radiators that are really reasonably priced. Some are German or Spanish AMTs, some are diamond or Be tweeters.
In fact, my home theater has both ring radiators and AMTs in them, both of which may be found among the most prestigious brands of speakers. Though they have entirely different operating principles and materials, their performance is absolutely seamless. I barely use EQ except for the sub and center due to the latter’s location on a shelf. What both of these tweeters share is incredibly smooth output (unlike crappy AMTs or Be tweets) that is flat to beyond 20 kHz.
Please, buy what you like, but to me, if you want to talk about a world class driver, it’s not one you can sit in front of and say "aha! I know this is an Aluminum/Be/Diamond/AMT tweeter!!"
If you can tell the type of tweeter you are listening to, I can assure you it is not among the best in the world.
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https://www.lii-audio.com/ On YT there are a number of clips with pretty impressive demo's of these drivers and speakers. |
Aside from my electrostatics of yester-year all tweeters have been domes and I've always preferred silk to any metallic domes. I enjoyed the Esotar II until I moved to Raidho's D series ultra-lightweight sealed ribbon tweeter. I have heard nothing yet that I prefer (although I have no doubt there are plenty as good). The sealed ribbon's resolution and high end treble sound superbly delicate, sweet and clear, and somehow, no matter the program material, they never hurt my ears, like other speakers did. Just my experience but I'm supremely happy with them. |
If you can tell the type of tweeter you are listening to, I can assure you it is not among the best in the world. erik_squires ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ maybe not rthe very best in the world, But this KASUN 3.5 inch paper cone double magnet, sure comes darn close to worlds finest. Sure beats out the Legendary Seas Millennium, and a Vifa Clone Neo tweeter anda 1963 Magnovox tweeter horn, and , and and. I had it sitting on my shelf,,,hummm , one more shot,, WOW factor high. and get this made in china but is in facta TRUE 91db if not higher. = Not lying. My tech geek LOVES his paper tweeters in his Radio Shak 7B speakers, , These KASUN are even better. I had to make a long search for these guys, So you are benifiting from hours and hours and hours of reaserch to find this Kasun. Thought I;'d pass it on. and yes the ONLY dealers are on ALIEXPRESS, ships super fast. Easy ck out. There are more than 1 sellers. Here is one. https://www.aliexpress.com/i/32828214587.html now aftera few pair are SOLD, you watch the price climb $10+. You just watch. I know how Ali works. These hidden gems are worth their weight in gold. If I did not post, you'd never in a million years find this rare tweeter. Only on AUDIOGON. Worlds best all things high fidelity forum. The Hifi guy |
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