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A full range speaker?

Many claim to be, but how many can handle a full orchestra’s range?

That range is from 26hz to around 12khz including harmonics, but the speakers that can go that low are few and far between. That is a shame, since the grand piano, one of the center points of many orchestral and symphonic performances, needs that lower range to produce a low A fully, however little that key is used.

I used to think it was 32hz, which would handle a Hammond B-3’s full keyboard, so cover most of the musical instruments range, but since having subs have realized how much I am missing without those going down to 25hz with no db’s down.

What would you set as the lower limit of music reproduction for a speaker to be called full range?

 I’m asking you to consider that point where that measurement is -0db’s, which is always different from published spec's.
william53b
mozartfan
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I just wonder what people find acceptable, since I know many people have very expensive, to me, systems that can barely manage 40hz, -0db down.

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Money might be able to buy the 20hz-40hz, 
but at what cost?
Lets say a  audiophile figures out how to get the elusive 20hz-40hz.
Say witha  $500-$1000 (EACH!!!)Scanspeak woofer 
But how is the 300hz-1khz range? 
A bit muddy?
Well thats the tradeoff, Now he has the Golden 20hz-40hz, but he has to live with the muddy 300hz-1khz , AND!!! can the Scanspeak go above the 1500hz to meet the  tweeter?? Or cuts off at 1khz??
There are headaches trying to acheive the 20hz-40hz. 
I strongly suggest, just completely forget the 20hz-40hz. 
Ain't worth the trouble.
My dual W`18's **only*** go to 40hz, but with duals, you get the gut feeling of a  20hz punch. 
Troel's gave me this insight in his MMT designs. = Dual midwoofers going to 40hz, sounda  much solid punch that a single woofer going to 20hz. 
mozartfan
2,143 posts
 
Again SUB is felt and it vibrates your ear drums


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A sub would grate my nerves to no end. I note Vox and AER offers subs in their bigger designs. No thanks. No subs ever, never.
mozartfan
2,143 posts
 
Full range speaker, no problem..  http://pointillistic.com/vmps-audio/RMX.htm

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Very impressive indeed. WOW
The Mother of all ribbons.
Price?? don't care to know.


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steve59
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I have an old mirage 400 watt with dual 12’’ subs and I drug it into my basement to hear what I was missing and, yeah i got those good vibrations and every piece of ductwork in the house rattling in sympathy. I agree with the above post, get healthy bass to 40 hz, it’s enough to feel and the furniture won’t rattle across the floor.
mozartfan
2,143 posts
 
 Someone above said 35, for me it a solid 30.

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Each his own
I'd much rather have a  40hz bottom midwoofer that offers a cleaner superior 40hz-1khz range. 
This is the tradoff.
Seas Magnesium Excel goes to 40hz, The Scanspeaks go to 25hz
Magnesium's are more musical in the 200-1khz range.
I don't care for paper cones, Heard too many paper cones back in the day.
So i give up the lower **tight punch** in these Scans, for a  superior voicing of the 200hz-1khz range of the Magnesium cones. . 
Always a  tradeoff.
The Seas newer cones, Graphene gives a  more kick in the lows, but at a  price, 2x;s((W22 = $550 each!!) the price of magnesium
Again trade off, $250 bargain vs a  wallet busting $550. 
For what, ? a  few hz's below 40hz?? = Not worth it. 


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