LYRA DELOS CARTRIDGE TOO BRIGHT, THIN AND SHRILL SOUNDING

Fremer in that AnalogPlanet review above mis-typed some of the spec info for the Delos, particularly the loading range. Here are the specs directly from the Lyra website:
http://www.lyraconnoisseur.com/Products/Products_Analog/Delos/delos3.html
Specifications for LYRA DELOS:

• Designer : Jonathan Carr
• Builder : Yoshinori Mishima (final build, testing), Akiko Ishiyama (primary build)
• Type : Medium weight, medium compliance, low-impedance moving coil cartridge
  
• Stylus: Namiki microridge line-contact nude diamond stylus (2.5um x 75um), surface-mounted
  
• Cantilever system: Solid boron rod with short one-point wire suspension, directly mounted into cartridge body
  
• Coils: 3-layer deep, 6N high-purity copper, square-shaped high-purity iron former, 6.3ohm self-impedance, 9.5uH inductance
  
• Output voltage: 0.6mV@5cm/sec., zero to peak, 45 degrees (CBS test record, other test records may alter results)
• Frequency range: 10Hz ~ 50kHz
  
• Channel separation: 30dB or better at 1kHz
  
• Compliance: Approx. 12 x 10-6cm/dyne at 100Hz
  
• Vertical tracking angle: 20 degrees
  
• Cartridge body: One-piece machining from solid 6063 aluminum billet, partially non-parallel shaping, body threaded directly for mounting screws
  
• Cartridge mounting screws: 2.6mm 0.45 pitch JIS standard
  
• Distance from mounting holes to stylus tip: 9.5mm
  
• Cartridge weight (without stylus cover): 7.3g
  
• Recommended tracking force: 1.7g ~ 1.8g (1.75g preferred)
  

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• Recommended load directly into MC phono input: 97.6ohm ~ 806ohm (determine by listening, or follow detailed guidelines in user manual)
  

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• Recommended load via step-up transformer: 5 ~15ohm (step-up transformer's output must be connected to 10kohm ~ 47kohm MM-level RIAA input, preferably via short, low-capacitance cable)
  
• Recommended tonearms: High-quality pivoted or linear (tangential) tonearms with rigid bearing(s), adjustable anti-skating force, preferably VTA adjustment

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I'm no expert here and only just recently upgraded my phono preamp to one that allows a wider range of loading options for my Lyras. I loved what I was hearing before, but love what I hear now far more. Loading really has a lot of impact on the sound as does VTA. The rest are important -- getting the VTF right, for example -- but I've found loading and VTA have the most effect on how the carts sound.

elevated treble, shrill thin bright sound from this Cartridge? I wish I had my HANA ML back. This Lyra sounds horrible!!!

Did own Delos. The cartridge is good. I think, there is some improvement in your System necessary….VTA correct? Too high?Phonostage setting?

IMPORTANT NOTE TO ALL >>>READ THIS POST BY OP

After nearly throwing the LYRA DELOS in the garbage, a swap out of phono preamps have vindicated this fine cartridge. The BAT VK P12 phono preamp has transformed the LYRA into a game changer. I retract all previous statements about this Cartridge other than it I do believe it sounds best with tubes or EXTREMELY high end solid state with FET's. Music now floats effortlessly without grain, without harshness and full of detail. The Lyra tracks beautifully and is nearly as quiet as digital( no clicks and pops). jeffvegas07-14-2021 1:06pm Report this

What a fiasco.

Bagged the Lyra Delos for days, tells us he has forgotten more than most of us have ever known about audio, apparently used to sell audio gear.

Perhaps @jeffvegas you could offer a sincere apology to @jcarr for the 100's of thousands of folk who will read your ill advised synopsis of the Lyra Delos, probably costing him sales in a very tough shrinking market where anyone who produces audio products should be encouraged, not have their products unfairly derided.

It might be in the best interests and fairness for Lyra if you asked the moderators to delete this thread altogether.

In fairness to you @jeffvegas at least you have admitted the mistakes made,

@dover  +1  Words matter....whether they are true or not, once written they become real.  People have a responsibility here when they post - keep in mind the impact on other's livelihood.  

atmosphere, I had an Electron Kinetics Eagle 2 on the bottom of the 4a's. Your amps while sonic champions in the midrange, suck in the bass department.

I've had the Eagle in my own system at home. I can see why people liked it at the time- as solid state amps of the period went it was pretty smooth (but not as smooth as a good tube amp). But as to playing deeper bass- on my speakers (Classic Audio Loudspeaker model T-3; flat right to 20Hz) I found myself turning up the volume to try get more impact out of the Eagle - despite its power and the 98dB efficiency of the CALs, the Eagle simply couldn't match a set of our M-60s in the bass department - on that speaker.


Different speakers might and will get different results. If you sold our gear, you would know how important getting the right match is. For this reason, I suspect that you didn't sell our gear at all. At best, my suspicion is  that you had a trade-in and simply didn't know how to show the amp off in its best light. None of the ARC stuff of that period could really play the bass right; IMO it didn't have the bandwidth needed (full power to 2 Hz).


This is easy to suss: what dealership did you work for?