LYRA DELOS CARTRIDGE TOO BRIGHT, THIN AND SHRILL SOUNDING

@pani

Get a Shelter 901mk2 or Shelter Accord. Even a Dynavector XX2 mk2 is good. You will be happy.

Btw, I have heard the Delos sounding shrill, thin, digital as well as nice & analog. You can’t do anything now with it if it is not sounding your way. It has a certain character that some can’t take. You won’t like a Kleos either.

As someone who runs both a Shelter 7000 and Lyra Kleos, I can say w/o hesitancy that I love both. The presentations are much different and that why I love them - Shelter is smooth and laid back while the the Lyra has more immediacy and slam.

As someone who runs both a Shelter 7000 and Lyra Kleos, I can say w/o hesitancy that I love both. The presentations are much different and that why I love them - Shelter is smooth and laid back while the the Lyra has more immediacy and slam.

Slam and immediacy apart, they belong to 2 different schools. Within the analog domain, there are different camps. The Lyra camp has always been after resolution, frequency response etc, which is a modern take. The old school camp probably value tonal richness, flow and warmth over outright resolution. In that sense if one staunchly belongs to one school, it is difficult for him/her to enjoy the other side of the sound.

The best is of course a neutral no-nonsense cartridge, but thats not easy to find. Kondo IO ?

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@pani 

You're probably right about new schools and old schools, but you can have both. I don't have a Delos, but I have a pair of Helikons, a pair of Kleos and an Atlas and when your system is working in synergy with the Lyras, you get wonderful tonal richness, flow and warmth AND outright resolution.

I have my Lyras on a VPI going into a Manley Chinook (which I loaded for the Atlas factoring in tonearm and phono cable capacitance), into a recently recapped Accuphase C-280L preamp and out to a recently recapped McIntosh MC-2300 and from there into a pair of recently recapped AR-9's (Teledyne 1978 ~ 1982). All solid state except for the Chinook and IMO it is fabulous. I do not feel like I am missing anything in the way of tonal richness or warmth and, of course, the Lyras extract details out of the records that I often never knew were there.

I've owned Shelter (but not that 7000), a Koetsu Rosewood Standard, a Dynavector XX-2 Mk I ... The Dynavector was the best of that lot, but when I got my first Helikon I knew I'd found home.

Flembo, I’m also running a Kleos on a VPI into a Chinook.

I completely agree with your assessment.

The difference being I run the Chinook @47k using a Bob’s Devices Sky 30 SUT.
Bob personally recommended that one based on my equipment and cabling.

If any thing I feel the dynamics improved a step further and the advantage of lower noise, due to reducing the gain to 40db, well that just let more of the music shine through.
Quite passages quieter ect...

Im running the metal uni pivot right now with a 3d reference gimbaled on the way. It was suggested that, the better damped arm will further improve all aspects of the Kleos.

I guess we’ll see