LYRA DELOS CARTRIDGE TOO BRIGHT, THIN AND SHRILL SOUNDING

Flembo, I’m also running a Kleos on a VPI into a Chinook.

I completely agree with your assessment.

The difference being I run the Chinook @47k using a Bob’s Devices Sky 30 SUT.
Bob personally recommended that one based on my equipment and cabling.

If any thing I feel the dynamics improved a step further and the advantage of lower noise, due to reducing the gain to 40db, well that just let more of the music shine through.
Quite passages quieter ect...

Im running the metal uni pivot right now with a 3d reference gimbaled on the way. It was suggested that, the better damped arm will further improve all aspects of the Kleos.

I guess we’ll see

Who did your setup?

rushfan71,

Now that is interesting. I have one of these:

http://www.lyraconnoisseur.com/Products/Products_Analog/Erodion/erodion.html

I wonder if I set things up the way you do with your Bob's Devices unit I might experience something similar...

I read the OP and a few initial responses, then jumped to the end.  So I may have missed some posts, and this may be redundant.  But, OP, I own a few Lyras, a Koetsu, MSL, and a VDH.  I know what you're talking about with the Lyra's resolution.  But, in my experience, it's all about the phono stage (assuming correct VTA/SRA, alignment, yada yada).  With my ARC REF 3SE, the Lyra Etna Lambda and Delos sound marvelous.  What you're hearing as shrill, I'm hearing as resolving, airy, spacious, and realistic, accompanied by a solid lower octave foundation, warmth when called for, midrange bloom when it's there, and what I consider an overall perfect tonal balance.  Not "bright."  When I pop in certain SS phono stages, it gets noticeably bitey, including that dreaded sense that the fairy dust isn't softly landing on you ear but rather stinging you.  Gotta go with what works in your system.  But I humbly submit that it's wrong to conclude there's something wrong with Lyra's sound.  Done right, paired right, its a frickin' amazing cart for the $$$.  If your red wine isn't going soo well with your ice cold sorbet, it's not the red wine.  

I had a Delos at one time on a VPI Aries and JMW 10 arm going into an all tube phono preamp, preamp and 2 monoblock tube power amps I had a similar experience to the OP. Despite having 40 years + with high end vinyl playback, and no matter how much tweeking I did to VTA,Azimuth,Loading,Tracking weight, I could never get it to sound anything but overly revealing and bright.

It worked well on well recorded audiophile vinyl but was mostly unlistenable with other music. I moved onto other cartridges like Koetsu, Benz, Hana.....all better to my ears. many people like the Lyra sound but that sound may have changed over the years.

I had a Lyra Clavis on my table at one time and loved it. It was borrowed from a friend. That's why I bought a Delos. What a letdown. Maybe it can sound better with a different table/arm?