Mr the Carbon what the frequency for crab chorus on slick Rick song Indian girl story? This one my test for speaker coherency chorus near end for adult audienceS.
A full range speaker?
Many claim to be, but how many can handle a full orchestra’s range?
That range is from 26hz to around 12khz including harmonics, but the speakers that can go that low are few and far between. That is a shame, since the grand piano, one of the center points of many orchestral and symphonic performances, needs that lower range to produce a low A fully, however little that key is used.
I used to think it was 32hz, which would handle a Hammond B-3’s full keyboard, so cover most of the musical instruments range, but since having subs have realized how much I am missing without those going down to 25hz with no db’s down.
What would you set as the lower limit of music reproduction for a speaker to be called full range?
I’m asking you to consider that point where that measurement is -0db’s, which is always different from published spec's.
That range is from 26hz to around 12khz including harmonics, but the speakers that can go that low are few and far between. That is a shame, since the grand piano, one of the center points of many orchestral and symphonic performances, needs that lower range to produce a low A fully, however little that key is used.
I used to think it was 32hz, which would handle a Hammond B-3’s full keyboard, so cover most of the musical instruments range, but since having subs have realized how much I am missing without those going down to 25hz with no db’s down.
What would you set as the lower limit of music reproduction for a speaker to be called full range?
I’m asking you to consider that point where that measurement is -0db’s, which is always different from published spec's.
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Many claim to be, but how many can handle a full orchestra’s range?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Since a member here graciously posted a link revealing the fq range of a orchestra. FACTS of the matter is 60hz-2khz is the solid core of a symphony instrumentation. How low, how high a speaker does extend/does not extend is not at all to be considered in speaker choice consideration. Its how well does a speaker vouice this critical band width. Wide Bnad high sensitivity is not beefy enough for voicing this band with a significant force factor, = SLAM. The cone material is too thin, there is not enough power to voice a full orchestra. Horns would be best bet, But there are 2 serious issues with horns 1) Big/heavy 2) Expensive 3) Ugly= Not wife friendly This rules horns out. back to xover designs. as the ultimate speaker for voicing orchestra. The only cone material that works for me, is Seas Magnesium. I have not heard their newest Graphene cone, which may be a improvement, I have no idea, they are expensive. Midwoofers voice the 40hz-1500/2khz. Here is where a orchestra's main heart and soul is voiced. Tweeters only add a shimmering I have added a 4 inch wide band DavidLouis and this adds more body and fullness to the 80hz-12khz area, My Kasun 3.5 double magnet 91db paper cone tweeter adds sparkle, glitz to the 9khz-14khz My next step is to find another DavidLouis that tops his 4 incher. I am happy with the 4, but I think we may get something more out his 6.5ers. His cone material on the 4 is not thin like the german labs, , it voices the muisc much different. The DL has soul, has warmth and body. Although the cone is like 3 inches, believe it or not, has some bass kick and highs roll off nicely at around 12k. My Frankenstein is full range but w/o all the distortion issues you will find in speakers such as Vandersteen, Wilson Focal Kharma Klipsch ProAc Sonus Faber Tannoy KEF Revel Harbeth and countless others that suffer The Distortion Issue/Coloration in the critical bandwidth. I have no such major issues in the criticals. Only the DL 4 has some stress and mushiness at peak passages in orchestra. I need to work getting a new wide band 6.5 to make my Frankenstein the best possible speaker. Sure horns will beat it, but the cost involved with horns, its not just practical. |
Just to be perfectly Clear - I am not disputing that normal human hearing range of a healthy individual ears is usually in-between 20Hz and 20kHz. My take away from the info/ reports/articles, by various different sources (there are several more) is that research has shown that in environments where Humans live the total frequency range at which soundwaves travel safe enough to have an affect on the Human condition is at the 15Hz - 150kHz. Millercarbon is absolutely correct that at this level this would be at an unconscious condition at best. So the argument then becomes - if this is true should it even be considered sound? I have been convinced that it does. For the most basic fundamental reason that researchers know that frequency at this level has a direct affect on the part Human brain that is specifically responsible for emotion. Even in the unconscious condition. What is music if not the greatest Human emotional expression. What I also find interesting is the manufactures who embrace the science and incorporate it in their products - even if I can't afford it.... |
This link has a good visual along with brief bit well rounded explanation. You’ll notice that the instruments listed are set above a grand piano keyboard for reference. I'm inclined, given the money I spend on my equipment, to want to hear all of the notes played so that I can feel the artists full expression of the piece they are playing. An aside: You didn’t need subs for Rock until the Synth came along. But then you didn’t need 32hz until the Hammond B-3 became a regular in Rock, and before that 40hz was enough. https://www.psbspeakers.com/the-frequencies-of-music/ |
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