Magnepan, Best midrange?

jjss493,224 posts07-27-2021 9:58am@murphythecat

best
I want the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

only the best will do ... must have the best, not second best, not third best, the BEST

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WEll I am back
My tech geek has blocked my Magnepan Speaker Project, It is officially ~~CANCELED~~~
Yeah i know, i mouthed off how special the mids are. 
I have a  jadis Defy7, which has a  reputation for beinga  bit touchy with certain speakers.
And so taking his strng urging advice,,I had to cancel The LRS Project,..

I just bought a  pair of DavidLouis 6.5 , bigger brother to my DL 4 inch.

My new Speaker Project will be adding a Crescendo tweeter xossing at say 4khz and running wide open wide band DavidLouis 6.5 the yellow cone style , Which he recommends over his other 2 , for superior female vocals.
This set up will be much more Defy friendly.
maybe not the best mids, but certainly superior to many big brand  name speakers.
500hz-3k hz is the critical hz's in any speaker.
WE need to  forget rock solid , tight accurate  drums/ bass and also  highs when reviewing any speaker. 
What happens in any demo at a dealership, is , we get carried away with deep powerful bass on a  nice test cd and glorious super sweet dynamic, sparkely crystal clear highs,, 
Meanwhile we over look (Not tuned in ) to muddy, fluffy, colored , distorted lower mids - upper mids. 
Happens every single time.  Dealer test quality cds , can  get you to sign the dotted line every time. 
Buyer beware. 

Last week, spoke some time on the horn with Josh over at Madisound about speakers , performance, and fidelity
He  summed up Seas Excel Magnesium line quite well with the word **Neutral* = Non colored.
The only  weakness with the Excel line is their rather low sensitivity.
Josh also brought up  one of Murphys Law,, the one that say, 
**You can 2 of the 3, but never 3 of 3*
Translate ~~You can have rock solid accurate bass,(Scanspeak) + most glorious sweet crystal clear highs (Magnepan ribbon tweeters) ,,,,the caveat will be the sacrifice of something in the midrange fq zone...
= The fly in the old soup.
For my musical preferences  entire midrange section is everything. 

jjss493,224 posts07-27-2021 9:58am@murphythecat

best
I want the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

only the best will do ... must have the best, not second best, not third best, the BEST

The mids in the Seas W18's, DavidLouis 6.5 , Seas Crescendo, perhaps not near the best,,,but certainly are not prone to crappy midrange. 
faults and weaknesses which  many famously expensive commercial big name  speakers  suffer from this fatigue syndrone. 
(Vandersteen, Thiel)

Here  in this video is exactly what I am refering to.
WOW what peaks of distortion,, Fatigue in less than 1 hour.
I could not stay in this showroom longer than a few minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4w8BavaC_0

Expensive, famous, popular. yet prove Murphy's Law.
2 of 3, never  3 of 3. 

Ck out all YT reviews of the Magnepan.
Every review gives 2 big thumbs up,
Try to  that on any speaker on the market.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KzmktPjk5o&t=535s

mozartfan07-23-2021 8:19a~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please keep in Mind, 
These speakers, although may be  ideally the best midrange for your classical music, your Defy7 may not be the **match made in heaven**
So please be aware , ck 1st with your geek guy to make sure your Defy7  is  a happy camper paired with the LRS.
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 Be right back,,,,
OK just cked with Tech Geek.
**Defy7 may nt like the LRS ohm load, and so why take the risk?/**
I told him, I agree, why take the risk.
86 db/4 ohms...
hummm, 
Nah, I'll stay with what is now making some really nice fatigure free musical sounds.
Just ordered another DavidLouis today.
Yet once again, the big trade off. 
Have to give up Magnepan beautiful midrange, and keep the Defy in good working order.
Tech feels best amplifier for this load is a  ss amplifier.

Magnepan’s are a very well known loudspeaker. Perhaps the OP is on the young side (his vocabulary suggests that such is the case ;-) .

I got my first pair in 1973, the original 3-panel Tympani T-I. Looking for more transparency (the T-I was somewhat veiled), and a more extended top and bottom end, I sold them the following year, replacing them with the Fulton Musical Industries (FMI) Model J, which featured six of the wonderful RTR ESL tweeters and a dynamic woofer in a transmission-line enclosure.

I got the transparency and extended high and low end I desired, but paid dearly for it. The tall, wide, and deep soundstage, the lifesize images of musical instruments and height of voices---all "hanging" in space---created by the T-I evaporated, replaced in the Model J by the same old problem of many "box" loudspeakers: the music appeared to be being squeezed through two holes in a wall at the plane of the front of the loudspeakers, all instruments miniaturized in size, voices lowered to waist height. The Maggies---even with their failings---provided a suspension-of-disbelief listening experience, the Model J did not. I now own a pair of the very much improved Tympani, the T-IVa.

And while the Fulton produced a greater quantity of bass than did the Tympani, that bass was not of the same quality. Maggie bass---particularly mid-bass---is extremely "taut", lean and clean. In musical terms, staccato. Very percussive (transient impact), with no overhang, no fat. It reproduces the upright bass like no other loudspeaker, as well as the bottom registers of the piano, and low-pitched (tympani, kick) drums. And while the very lowest notes produced by the pipe organ are missing (the 16’ pipe produces a 16Hz tone!), the "shuddery" quality of the pipe organ sound is reproduced to a degree unmatched by any dynamic loudspeaker I’ve heard. Well, with one close exception: the low frequencies produced by a superior OB/Dipole sub, a topic for another time.

Listeners who are gobsmacked by their first exposure to a Maggie may be forgiven for being unaware of the fact that Magnepan is not the only company producing magnetic-planar loudspeakers. I am mentioning the Eminent Technology LFT-8b because of the main thrust of this thread---the reproduction of the midrange of music. VPI’s Harry Weisfeld declared that the LFT-8b produces the best midrange reproduction he has ever heard, regardless of price. I encourage the OP to attempt to hear the best value in all of hi-fi---the Eminent Technolgy LFT-8b, a steal at $2499/pr. Reviews available on the ET website.