mozartfan,
What tools do you use to design proper crossovers for these projects?
What tools do you use to design proper crossovers for these projects?
Stuck at home? Make a speaker or something for goodness sake!
Yeah I know, it's something I say twice a year at least, but I say it because I think our community is made better with more builders than with just buyers.
Please, if you are stuck at home looking for ways to spend your money, or maybe want to interest the kids around you consider building a kit. Speakers, amplifiers, cables. Something to get your hands dirty and feel the pride of putting things together yourself.
Peace,
Erik
Please, if you are stuck at home looking for ways to spend your money, or maybe want to interest the kids around you consider building a kit. Speakers, amplifiers, cables. Something to get your hands dirty and feel the pride of putting things together yourself.
Peace,
Erik
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roxy544,406 posts08-12-2021 5:44pmmozartfan, What tools do you use to design proper crossovers for these projects? No I have no xover exp. What I did was, tear out the brand new Millenniums, The xover was easy to tear out , as I had madisound redo my old xovers and had the bass xover and tweet xover on SEPARATE boards. OK so Milleeium gone + xover partion gone Now we are left with the fantastic dual W19E001's,. Remain in place xover tweaked, took out the 8.2 installeda 10uf Supreme Silver. cut off now is like,,,say 1600hzish?? Now what are we going to do for 1600hz on up...hummm, lets try a wide band ceck Order Voxativ AC1A. after a 10 ,,make that 5 minute trial in open and also ina 12inch1inch12inch 1/2 inch play cabinet= Listed and sold at 1300/free ship, Gone , back to drawing board... huummm back to davidLouis.. 4 inch = SUCESS Lets try the big brother 6.5 Success Lets add some top end sheen Add a paper cone 3.5 inch double magnet Kasun Check SUccess!!! + a Mundorf 2.2 SESGO ($100 EACH!!!) ripped from Millennium xover. Ck, sweet shiny sparkly highs, say 9kishfq =,,hummm , maybe 15k+hz's. DavidLouis runs wide open, no xover, just straight juice. BBasically i have TWO!!!!!!! Caps in this Frankenstein a 10uf/W18's 2.2/Kasun paper tweet. Clean, clear, near zero distortion, near zero coloration, near zero fatigue, ona scale of 1-100 1 being lowest possibel, ~~~~100 being like Bose or B&W type coloration/distortion/fatigue. It does not have as wide a sound stage as say a dual W22 Graphene + DavidLouis 8 inch + Kasun 3.5 paper double magnet. . That speaker would compete with the best, any Wislon speaker in terms of width and breath of soundstage. The Kasun might need a xover design to voice superior, but I have no access to any measurements nor software to design a xover, So a simple 2.2 cap is all I can give it. And it sounds wonderful. Vocals accurate, clean, highs shimmer and sparkle. Is the Seas T35 better? I have no idea. I'm done with buying high priced tweets. The Crescendo was a huge disappoi9ntment. I will have it shiped to madisound for testing. If Madisound shows tweet working as new, = a POS, sens is no more than 82db, IF THAT!!!! Seas claims 92db. Off by a factor of 10db = trash. IMHO The kasun is the tweet to beat. 91 TRUE db sens. |
What exactly are we after ina spaeker Bass Mids Highs Lets forget bass and highs for the moment. Midrange, 500hz-2khz/5khz whatever But what are we REALLY after in a speaker? Lowest possible::: Coloration Distortion Fatigue level Accurate vocal presence Instrumental separation/soundstage Is this asking too much? You bet it is. Many world famous speakers fall short in 1,2,3 or even all 4 categories. This has been my lengthy, costly , adventures in speaker selection. I truly believe I have succeeded. But I am looking for more. The Speaker saga venture continues............. I may already have IT, But not sure The W18's remain, The Kasun remains. Aint touching either. Its the wide band Lets try another DavidLouis , this time the white wooden cone 8 incher. vs his 6.5 yellow paper mix.... Til next time............... |
I mean, if you wanta commercialized speaker Buy Thiel Vandersteen, Magnepan Wislon B&W's. There are countless commercialized speakers. But if you want 1/2 commercial amd 1/2 DIY, follow my lead. Take what you have in your room now, and modify to something superior. Its not hard to do, Work with what you have, Dont go buy new speakers. You will just be on a merry go round. You can always salvage what you have. Keep your bass woofers. Tweak it down to say 800hz. and add a wide band, Keep your tweeter, just tweak xover up to say 8khz. Its really easy and makes a huge gains in midrange richness, soundstage. Wide bands, will embellish what you have and you will begin to hear music as it was meant to be heard. |
That's just what I did Mozart I took the Electrovoice Georgian and removed the bass cabinet covered it with Dynamat after painting it and then I time aligned the mid and Tweet. I had to take the mid range 848 out of the cabinet and put it on top because it needs to go back further than is possible inside the cabinet. With the face of the cabinet removed the mid range needs to be back 8 3/8 inches from the front of the outer cabinet and the tweeter goes where the mid range used to be and it needs to be back 9 7/8 inches. It sounds like music now making it hard for me to get off my duff and rewire it with some OCC. |
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