Why Aren't More Speaker Designers Building Augmented Widebanders?

jtcf1,192 posts08-23-2021 3:46pmHere's an older DIY article that I found interesting

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Great find to support the validity of wide banders ability to make music  come to life, like magical colors.

Geek asks
**So how do they sound?**

**...unconditionally without rival***
may I second opinion   as true  with no hype. 

I have a  YT upload finsihing any minute,,,, There is some static, as the Jadis DAC takes a  full 20 minutes for the chips to warm up,, , I waited  5 minutes to make this shot video,,,btw cked the DL Ebay sire,, says these 6.5's hit 45 free air ,,and I have to say,, its true,, they  start to roll off at 45ha,, its soft bass, but most certainly same level as the Seas W18's, which roll off starting at 40hz. 
Highs are indeed extended,, maybe 13/14k hz ish. has sparkle and sheen. Same sheen as the super Kasun paper 3.5 double magnet tweeter. So  forget this idea wide bands have roll off on lows/ highs.. 
Thats simply not true for these new line of wide banders. 

Lets see how the video is going......

Ok hot off the press just loaded


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0q4OpmnsRs

WOWWW
I am just now listening through my $10 comp speakers,, and I'm telling you, folks, thats **sparkle, shimmerings of silver** just sweetesttt highs  you will ever find in any speaker, 
Diana Krall's voice never ever sounded soooo smooth, so real, so accurate, soo authentic, super stage presence. 
I'm blown away. 
Ck out the smooth bass down to 45hz!!!. 
Will the wood cone 8 beat this yellow paper mid 6.5???
Ebay lister speaks lil english and does not like to answer all my Q!;s. 
So I can't know til it arrives,, Fridayish, maybe saturday.
have the cypress wood all ready to go for cabinet build.
WOW I;m impressd with the performance of this lik 6.5 NeoDymium magnet wide bander. 

His 6.5 white cone Neo, he says, more bass (which I do not need) but not as clean mids (which is my only concern) is superior in this 6.5 yellow papaer mix. 
His 4 yellow papaer mix, has bass, some highs,,but as i say, mids in certain fq's can get a  tiny bit(more than I will accept) ..stressed. Impressive, but ~~No Cigar~~He only lists the 4 incher  on his aliexpress site. He took it off his ebay site. 

OK figured out where the static comming from, Wide Band did like the tweet wires on same connect, Ran tweet back to Thor posts, where they belong
Staic gone,, Not  sure if I can run dual wide abnds per channel,,, maybe static. seems these drivers want their very own dedicated speaker cables..
Gotta ck with tech geek see how we can/might run dual wide bands on 1 set of speaker cables.
Can a  6.5 WB make bass fq's happen?
Here ya go
Bass guitar riffs and drums sets.

Sophie Milman's voice, accurate, smooth , authentic. Lifelike sound stage

Vol no more than 8:45,,9oclock can't take. Still we have a  room full of music. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2qlzPVk0sk

bass moduale on comp speakers broken,, still getting some bass in the tiny tweets..So I know you guys with better comp speakers are getting the punch I am not hearing.
So if anyone sasys,, **wide  bands area  compromise**, Just send them over  to my uploads,,, That'll set the record straight once and FOR  all time. 

ATC has been hand building a very wide band device for a long time, the 3 inch mid dome. 380 to 3500Hz. I believe its the widest band mid device of its kind and gets around some of the typical midrange narrowing issues by using a dome instead of a cone. A clever piece of well thought out engineering. The incredibly powerful motor and dual suspension avoid some of the "deal killer" issues of earlier wide domes.

There is a very good engineering reason to get the crossover points away from the 750-2500 area where so much is happening musically. Wherever there are two drivers in different locations producing the same sound at the same level you have an measurable/audible artifact in level (the dip at crossover) and dispersion (the narrowing at crossover). Polars always reveal these artifacts while audible issues with "sweet spot narrowing" are typically traced to this same issue. Having these artifacts show up at 1K or 1500 is a significant problem.  Speaker designs with 5 or 10 drivers in one speaker doing the same thing is a dispersion disaster; the live industry (where multiple drivers are required to meet SPL demands) have been working on this very issue for a long time.  Its logical that some of this digital steering and pattern control they have been applying over the last 10 years will make it's way into consumer at some point.    

A wide band discussion cant be had without mentioning the Manger driver, probably the best known wide band driver. I’ve heard one only a few times, and it didn’t compete sonically with a properly executed multiway loudspeaker in my experience.  But there are many who love it so there is something there.  It sure is interesting and one has the feeling that additional drivers operating at the extremes of the Manger could be a fun test to do.

Brad