Holo Serene vs Denafrips Athena (anyone compared these preamps?)


Holo Serene vs Denafrips Athena (anyone compared these preamps?). They are in the same ballpark price, both look well made.
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Nonoise, as it relates to the first video, my initial experience with Athena is similar fronting a Benchmark Dac3-L into a Denafrips Hyperion.  Inserting Athena between the two is a mind bending experience.  Everything is better, bigger, sharper, more textured.  Lows have depth, separation, and allow easily followed focus on individual instrument timber’s that dac direct only hints at.  The highs go on forever yet are never aggressive.  Both low and highs just have this long lasting, see into, quality.  Everything, including vocals and backgrounds, are ust in its place such that when the music gets really busy it’s like a panorama of sounds, a bit psychedelic, in a good way.  With Athena in the loop, the Dac3 sounds as if a much, much better dac than when run direct.  Go figure as Athena shares many of the design considerations of the Wyred and Holo.  Whatever Athena is doing, it’s wickedly good fronting some Zu DW’s… 
" Here are two reviews on the Holo Serene that may help in making a decision:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD2Fj1tTu8Y&t=1113s
&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdxCksgbScM"

I wouldn't put a lot of stock into either of those two reviews. 

As someone who owns the Serene, I'm just saying.
@jnds1 - so what is your take on the Serene if you disagree with the reviews?

I wouldn't put a lot of stock into either of those two reviews.

As someone who owns the Serene, I'm just saying.

@jnds As someone interested in either the Serene or Athena I'm very interested to hear what you didn't like about the Serene, where you felt the two reviews listed above were incorrect and whether your thoughts have changed with more playing time on the Serene. 

There doesn't seem to be a lot of feedback on either of these pre-amps yet. From Srajaen's reviews he seems to like a very fast, detailed "Swiss  sound" even at the expense of body, weight, organicness etc. For this reason he slightly prefers the Kinki pre-amp over the Athena. He also slightly preferred the W4S STP-SE 2 over the Athena, saying that the Athena was slightly less overtly detailed and fast but had more body.

I've not been able to hear any of these pre-amps yet but reading between the lines my hunch is that the Serene's character would be closer to the Kinki and that I may prefer the extra body of the Athena. I am coming from a fairly neutral, non-tubey sounding tube pre-amp that is single ended only. I'm looking to move to a fully balanced pre-amp (as the Holo Spring DACs are known to sound better from their balanced output and my power amp is supposedly more dynamic from its balanced input) and also to reduce the amount of gain in the system (the Athena is unity gain). 

Although my tube pre-amp does not sound "tubey" in the sense of being lush, euphonic etc, it does have a wonderful 3D, organic sound with great presence. I'm hoping not to lose these traits but to perhaps gain a lower noise floor with the attendant increase in detail and dynamics but not a cool, lean, analytical, super fast type sound or lacking drive and dynamics. 

For these reasons I currently feel that the Athena may best suit my preferences/goals and have not pursued a fully passive pre-amp/attenuator or the Benchmark LA4,  Topping Pre90 or W4S STP-SE. I've noted that some people purchasing these options have missed their tube pre-amps and returned to them.