Thiel Owners

jhouse55,

Go on line and search Thiel outriggers. There is a review from Tom Lyle from Enjoy the Music that shows copious photos of the outrigger for the 2.4SE. 

There was never outriggers designed for the models I mentioned and the ones you mentioned hence my willingness to offer these to the Thiel community.
Rob at Coherent does not have outriggers for the models Thiel never designed them to go with as they came about towards the end of JT life. 
They will be very similar in design to the one Thiel made but the screw taps, length/width, and thickness for outrigger will vary slightly for each model. 
I'm not making one CAD file. I have to make a CAD file for each model then program, then initial set up of tooling before one part is even made. 

To keep cost down to end user I cannot make one as all the cost associated with making one, stated above, is absorbed into one unit. 

I'm keeping a list and when I get 2-3 orders of the same Thiel model from members  I'll provide a price. Doing only one, I will not put all that effort into when I know the cost will be too high per unit.

Tom Thiel,

In my work in designing endpins for cello and endbuttons for violins I met a geophysicist who showed me and explained to me how my devices actually work. I knew they sounded better but was uncertain as to why. She has a patent as how to remove a polarity of shear the mechanical wave motion that causes the air to vibrate. One polarity of shear can create interference in the other polarity, only one is  needed to create vibration of air. Not sure if it is in the vertical or horizontal plane. With the removal of this single polarity you can see in the amplitude response a net gain of over 1 db. This was shown on all the harmonics of an 85 hz note out to 18khz. This interference is like a parasite that travels the surfaces and at some point becomes part of the music. There is a transition or handoff between a mechanical surface shear wave and the air that lays on them and becomes the sounds we hear. 

In the case of speakers I feel I have a large understanding of how to remove interfering energy from the speaker cabinet because there are  devices that can help direct interference out and off the box and into the the floor. 

What I am trying to understand and you are working with I think,  is the transition of the mechanical wave  portion and how the now moving  air is launched off the solid vibrating surface. How to make that air less turbulent at takeoff?
Tom

TomTweak - yes we are working on the same problem When I heard my first demonstration of the technology about 3 years ago, I and all dozen of us, were dumbfounded. It took about a year with inputs from physicists, recording experts and our own experimentation to get a small grasp of what's going on. Unlike your approach, mine is to organize the shear propagation "waves" along the surface such that their launch is clean. The resulting sound is pristine.
My felt need came from that "sound" on the 3.6 baffle which we discussed here awhile back. But "it" is everywhere in various degrees and manifistations. My collaborator first approached "the problem" for known "sounds" in clarinet bells and key caps. I am presently developing skins for the Renaissance 02s under development. This effect is different from edge diffraction, which primarily affects specific frequency(s). This chaotic to sublime surface flow affects all frequencies - uncannily.

Keep up your good work.
TT

jhouse55

Good to see you here again. What gear is in your current system?

Happy Listening!

@duramax747 - Wow those look nice. I guess my top choice out of the three models I have would be the 2.2, then 1.2, then 3.5. I’ll keep a eye on this forum like I usually do to see updates from your posts. For now, count me in for a 2.2 set if you get other interests for that model. I’m not sure if you’ll get many more for the 1.2 or 3.5. Thanks!