Hear my Cartridges....🎶


Many Forums have a 'Show your Turntables' Thread or 'Show your Cartridges' Thread but that's just 'eye-candy'.... These days, it's possible to see and HEAR your turntables/arms and cartridges via YouTube videos.
Peter Breuninger does it on his AV Showrooms Site and Michael Fremer does it with high-res digital files made from his analogue front ends.
Now Fremer claims that the 'sound' on his high-res digital files captures the complex, ephemeral nuances and differences that he hears directly from the analogue equipment in his room.
That may well be....when he plays it through the rest of his high-end setup 😎
But when I play his files through my humble iMac speakers or even worse.....my iPad speakers.....they sound no more convincing than the YouTube videos produced by Breuninger.
Of course YouTube videos struggle to capture 'soundstage' (side to side and front to back) and obviously can't reproduce the effects of the lowest octaves out of subwoofers.....but.....they can sometimes give a reasonably accurate IMPRESSION of the overall sound of a system.

With that in mind.....see if any of you can distinguish the differences between some of my vintage (and modern) cartridges.
VICTOR X1
This cartridge is the pinnacle of the Victor MM designs and has a Shibata stylus on a beryllium cantilever. Almost impossible to find these days with its original Victor stylus assembly but if you are lucky enough to do so.....be prepared to pay over US$1000.....🤪
VICTOR 4MD-X1
This cartridge is down the ladder from the X1 but still has a Shibata stylus (don't know if the cantilever is beryllium?)
This cartridge was designed for 4-Channel reproduction and so has a wide frequency response 10Hz-60KHz.
Easier to find than the X1 but a lot cheaper (I got this one for US$130).
AUDIO TECHNICA AT ML180 OCC
Top of the line MM cartridge from Audio Technica with Microline Stylus on Gold-Plated Boron Tube cantilever.
Expensive if you can find one....think US$1000.

I will be interested if people can hear any differences in these three vintage MM cartridges....
Then I might post some vintage MMs against vintage and MODERN LOMC cartridges.....🤗
128x128halcro
@dover
Yes....20k Ohms and 40k Ohms......

Unfortunately my Glanz came without box or specs.
I seem to recall that some Poster on A’Gon alerted us to the fact that there was a Seller offloading a handful of these NOS cartridges....

HERE is a close-up of the cantilever/stylus which is the best I can do for you.
Any similarities to the MFG61?
Needless to say, I am very surprised at the sound heard from the Glanz. I will have to go back and search for my reaction to the first time you included it here, Halcro. I don’t remember having a similar reaction. The Glanz is now one of two MM’s heard here that, for me, play with realistic tonal color and no hint of tonal blandness which for me is most important above all else. May I ask which arm/headshell it was mounted on for this most recent shootout? Thanks.


I seem to recall Frogman, that you really liked the Glanz the previous comparisons I posted as that is why I mounted it in the Dynavector DV-507Mk 2 last week for an extended listening.
And I agree with you 😉

It is beginning to sound even better with the changes to the setup suggested by Dover and the further break-in of the cartridge.
We may have a real challenger here.....💪
Thanks.  Also, as Dover pointed out it is a Moving Flux, not a MM.  In your and Dover’s (or anyone else’s) experience, could this explain the absence of the telltale HF ceiling that I usually hear from MM’s?
@halcro 

I found the specs for your MFG610LX
Recommended load 47k
Recommended Capacitance 100pf
Recommended tracking force 1.5g plus/minus 0.25g

In theory you should set your MM input to 47k and lowest capacitance possible for linear response. From what I can find due to its low inductance the Glanz are more sensitive to resistive loading than capacitive loading.

The MFG610LX and MFG61 have slightly different specifications -

MFG61 has better channel separation 25db versus 23 for the 610LX.
MFG61 has a Special Polyhedron stylus profile versus a Line Contact in the 610LX. "Special Polyhedron" is according to Glanz patents more refined - looks to me its moving towards to van den hul/geiger profile.
MFG61 has very slightly higher compliance - 25 vs approx 15-20 for the 610LX ( at 10hz ).