Referent point

OK you say,, well any  speaker can play light jazz, like Diana Krall, Sophie Milman.
Give us soem full swing blues
'OK 
You got it
Here you will hear the DLVX8 in more complex swing orchestra.

I try to further my argument in my case that the new high tech wide banders
TB2145 and DLVX* have set the standards for judging all box/xover type speakers.

Try to make it through the full 15 minutes.
Trust me, the  speakers sound exactly as you hear them in this video,.
Just pure easy midrange, extremely neutral , and  naturally musical.
The labs in Chicago/Berlin making these wide bands were the best speaker engineers  ever.
These guys were like the Einsteins of speaker designs. 
WE should all follow their lead.
Thankfully 2 labs in china did just that. Follow the high fidelity.
Both labs deserve the highest awards in all things audio.
For w'/o high fidelity speakers, your $$$$$$ amp is  worth no more than ,,,Low Fidelity. .
Who wants low fidelity? Such as Bose and B&W's type sound.
Wilson's are only a  step above B&W.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjKBJ90-7M0

Yes open baffle, single driver, no crossover speakers have a unique sound. No one is denying that. I take it you like that sound and it’s the sound you use to measure other speakers by.
OK I have no issue with that. Open baffles do some things really well .
OK lets look at where you are coming from and the assumptions you state are facts.

I mean if we are all seeking true high fidelity its high time to face the facts of
1) bigger is not better
This isn’t necessarily true even in the wide band arena. The larger the baffle the more bass you’ll get. Increased bass response is a good thing in a reference speaker

2) throwing money at a speaker will result in great sound
Not untrue but typically better components result in better sounding components. There is a 6moons post about building a high end system for $1000 using an open baffle speaker. Since the article was posted the speaker manufacture has started using more expensive drivers which resulted in better sound.

3) thinking outside the box is the creative approach to discovering high fidelity.
I can’t agree more but that also includes other speaker designs.

4) a lab name means nothing when heard next to a high tech wide band.(We can lay this blame at Sterophiles feet)
Here’s the rub. This statement is vague, mostly untrue and only undermines the purpose of the post. Magazine reviewers are paid by the word and a poor review could cut them off from that manufactures products is true but they also have an audience of listeners who actually pay them and if a product was truly that superior and they didn’t report it they would be out of business

If there was ever was truly such a thing as a reference speaker it would probably be the Rogers LS3/5A. It was used in recording studios by the engineers who actually recorded the music you’re listening too. Playback through the Rogers would be a baseline / reference. From how it originally sounded to how it sounds on the new speakers.

I get it you are excited but most of us have already been there, done that and moved on. Repeatedly posting something on multiple threads doesn’t make it so.

What does this post even mean? What reference? Just buy what sounds good to you....who cares what anyone else thinks is a reference. The only reference that exists is what someone heard with their own ears at a studio....remember, the sound was being played through "monitor speakers", none of which were universally used...therefore, your reference is a hard target to hit, and your ears are different than the person that was actually in the studio...so what is the point in searching for some imaginary reference...if a speaker sounds like sh#t to you, but sounds great to someone else, it is still sh#t, vice versa...it is you that needs to be satisfied.