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Questions on Overhang/Cartridge Alignment using Dr Feikert Protractor on VPI Classic 3

So I recently bought a used VPI Classic 3 that came with a low hours Soundsmith Zephyr 2 cartridge.

I wanted to make setup as accurate as possible so I bought the Dr Feikert Protractor.
I first make sure that the Spindle to Pivot length was correct which I read online was supposed to be 258mm.

See pic below.


This was measured by taking off the tonearm and measuring exactly from the spindle to the bare sharp point of the unipivot point.
After that was done I mounted the cartridge to the arm and got the step 1 in perfect bullseye.



Step 2 however is where things get off.   I'm coming up about 2 mm long on step 2.



Step 3 is also off as its about 1.25 mm short of the line.

Here is a shot showing approximately the location of all 3 points.



Any ideas on what I can do to fix this where it hits all 3.   I'm at a loss being that the Spindle to Pivot point is right on at the 258mm length which i was told is correct for the VPI Classic tables.
Thanks for any assistance you can provide.
newguru
lewm
12,972 posts
 
Would you mind saying what are steps 2 and 3, for the benefit of those of us who (1) don't want to do a net search right now, or (2) don't own a Feickert protractor, or (3) do own one (like me) but don't care to go dig it up to figure out what you are talking about when you mention steps 2 and 3.
One caveat: With the Feickert, the markings on the spiral scale are with respect to the pivot to spindle distance (P2S).  The stylus tip should rest on the correct P2S mark for your tonearm.  It can be confusing.  I own the older version of the Feickert, the one in white plastic with the fully circular template.  Maybe the later black one that is semi-circular is different.
newguru OP
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Thanks man!  Once I did that it was an easy rotational adjust and the cartridge is perfectly lined up now on step 2 and step 3.   Probably should have read the instructions a few more times.  Totally my fault.
wlutke
724 posts
 
No, no, no, It’s not your imagination. The instructions are totally vague. I didn’t get it right the first time either with my VPI unipivot, Feickert 2 and Soundsmith cartridge. Glad you got it now.
lewm
12,972 posts
 
Agree that the Feickert is a great protractor but the instructions are poor, as per my mention that the markings on the spiral gauges, to be used to set effective length, are in terms of P2S distance.  It's easy to keep that in mind, if you do an alignment every day or even once a week.  Not so easy if you use it once a year.
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chakster
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When you finished with step-1 with given PS distance (and your cart is alignet accordingly) YOU HAVE TO ROTATE THE PLATTER a little bit to put the needle tip on a target (cross) doing step-2 and step-3. Just read the manual. Without moving the platter you can’t do all steps. I have and use Dr.Feickert protractor.

Last 2 steps are not for overhang, they are for cantilever alignment, it must be in line, you might have to twist your cartridge body doing step-2,3.

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