Why the hate for mcintosh amps?

The question is not the amount of bass it's the quality and timing of the bass. A lot of folks are finding out the difference. A sub on either side of the seated position and mains set in a good triangle about 1/3 further away than the subs, might change your mind. I use a setup that the front of the sub is an 15" passive and both sides are 12" HE actives. 6CF boxes.

The 2 passives are the first sub driver to hit my position. Some recordings are NOT phase correct, I just flip the 180 switch on one sometimes both.
It's still 6 drivers in 6 different directions into the room. Its a DBA in two boxes. Best idea I had in a while to tell the truth.. I tried it over the last week or so... A second 12" passive facing the wall? It would act like 8 drivers because it would be 8 drivers.. No need for 8 boxes though..
Just Distributed BASS, no array. Maybe radial bass array. or ARC BASS

I also use GRs servo subs turned sideways on either side of the seated position 4-6 12" OB HE drivers... (they are setting right now.)

It's how the room pressures and the timing. If you decouple your mains and subs. AND add as much room treatment as you can stand.. That is 50% of the sound anyway.

I like a ported room to. Some people like a sealed or semi sealed room, that makes a ton of difference in EAR pressure. The heavier the bass the more I port the room... IF I want to listen for a while..

12-24 Helmholtz tuning tubes should smooth out the rest. Where is Master M? Room first, tubes last... :-)

I'm going to buy one more Mac. Tube C1100 all tricked out. My ears are going to need that tone control soon enough.. 

I don't care who hates Mac... More for me.. :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr1IA8Vnw0A

McIntosh just announced they’ve reintroduced the MC3500 monoblock tube amplifier. The new version is powered by eight EL509S vacuum tubes. Available for order today. 

femoore12

The looks of the C3500 are not for me but does not matter as it is priced way out of my range.

@james633 

It’s priced way out of my league also. However, I find it interesting McIntosh seems more focused on tube amps these days. Interesting new tube amps being introduced. 

Campaigner8,
When I purchased my system, my Home was 4,000 sq ft and my listening room was open to the back, so yes I felt I needed the rel sub. I recently moved to a 1,600 sq ft Home with a smaller listening room and as of yet have not hooked up the sub. So far, I’m fine without it and my Wife appreciates it.