LSA Voyager GAN Amplifier

The objective measurements just show numbers.....they have little to do with the sound of an amp.

This statement is false. People talk about the sonic signature of an amplifer- that is its distortion signature. The problem isn't that the 'objective measurements' have little to do with the sound- they have everything to do with it- the problem is that the important measurements are rarely published anywhere.

If you want to know what is needed to create an amp that sounds like music, here are the things you need to see:

less than 1% phase shift at 20Hz and 20KHz

the same harmonic distortion at all frequencies, not just 100Hz (as is typically measured).

Either one of two things- either you have the primary distortion components be the 2nd and 3rd such that they can mask the higher orders. or the distortion is well below 100dB down (keeping in mind that this is true even at 10-15KHz). Or both.

IM distortion must be low- 0.05% or less.

If you satisfy these specs, you'll have an amp that sounds very musical. And if the amp does not, you can forecast what it will sound like. But most of this information is never published.

While some measurements may bring some sonic bliss.....still most things you do to an amp (that cannot be measured) still change the sound.....in fact, an amp designed by anyone to have the distortion structure that Ralph says can sound blah, OK, good, very good or great depending on the implementation of a million different factors. Ralph thinks its mainly one factor.....to each his own. I play with the other million things and they all change/improve the sound. If you have ordinary binding posts on your amp....you have ordinary binding post sound.....no matter what the distortion reads. This is something I have spent over 40 years playing with. If you have a belief that these things that I say do not matter......then it does not matter how many years you have been making amps or whatever......you will still not have any real knowledge about the sound of parts and execution. Basic design is one thing.......how you implement it....is just as important. Designing and tweaking go hand in hand. One without the other is like being one handed. I have always been able to improve the sound of every component that I have ever had......not matter what the basic measurements.....and what I do.....does not make the measurments better. My customers for over 30 years agree. Most high end companies.....both measure and tweak after they measure......some do not. Believe what you want. I believe my ears.

Beauty if everywhere......joy is every breath. I hug you.....you are loved.

in fact, an amp designed by anyone to have the distortion structure that Ralph says can sound blah, OK, good, very good or great depending on the implementation of a million different factors.

 

True of any amp regardless. There will always be people with the above opinions about any piece of equipment. Thank you for once again sharing the obvious amidst more self promotion bs.

You can say what you want about ASR but at least they had the good sense to remove your noise from the signal.

kisses and hugs. What is so nice about Audiogon is that we allow different opinions (Including yours...we would not kick you off even though 95% of people here do not believe as you). ASR is a "believe as we do or we kick you off " forum. Really loving and open, wouldn’t you say......he he. May all be blessed.

ASR is the last stand of the objectivists.....really funny actually.  I hope they keep that hill and don't lose it to the ever charging subjectivists throwing their hand grenades of non measuring tweaks at them.  What fun all of this is.  I hope none of you take any of this seriously.  What is said here does not (to much) affect the happiness of the world......however, every word you say......does send out a ripple in the ocean of consciousness.  So, choose your reality carefully.  For whatever you put out....comes back to you and goes out to the whole world.  Joy is always present.  Be a smile millionaire, its free.

ASR is a "believe as we do or we kick you off " forum.

Only if you're a scammer that tweaks and asks for money without any tech info on what's being done to the owner's equipment, and how it effects in technical terms the sound and the specs.   Andy