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Different R2R DACs

Several months ago, I bought a used Hono Spring Level 2 DAC to see how R2R would compare against my Mytek Brooklyn DAC+. I like the Brooklyn+ a lot, but, given the other components in my system, I'm thinking about building in a bit more warmth (without losing significant detail). I'm not looking for sweetness or holography. Unfortunately, I was thoroughly unimpressed by the way the Holo Spring Level 2 smeared the music. I returned it within two weeks. Perhaps the unit I bought was defective (though I bought it from a highly reputable seller of used equipment), but it started me wondering how much of the hype surrounding the newer generation of R2R DACs was just that, hype. However, I keep seeing so many glowing reviews of reasonably priced R2R DACS from Denafrips, Aqua, Lampizator and others. So I'm wondering whether I should give them another try. Unfortunately, where I live the only real (suboptimal) option is to audition by purchasing one DAC at a time. Before I start down that road again, I thought I would ask the collective brain of Audiogon about how much of a difference I might expect, as against the Holo Spring level 2, from a new Denafrips Pontus II or used Terminator II, a used Aqua La Voce or Lampizator, or some other R2R DAC under $5K. I don't require require resolutions greater than 24/192 (beyond which I discern no difference). I do like the option of MQA decoding, but it's not a deal breaker. 

The rest of my system (source components aside), at present, include a Parasound JC2 BP preamp, a pair of VTV Purifi mono amps, and Harbeth C7ES-3 speakers.

audio-satisficer
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I'm quite happy with Musician Pegasus. I prefer this over a more costly upgraded mhdt orchid in my primary system. Strengths are neutrality while still retaining some warmth and much brtter bass. On the flip side there is less of that holographic space around each instrument. Both are great DACs. 

lemonhaze
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Just seen this thread. I am condidreing the MOJO Audio DAC but also SW1X,  Merason and Rockna Wavelight. Not  heard any of these but extensve reading has lead me there. 

What is important though is to ignore the R2R/Delta-Sigma superiority war. It's all about the sound, right?  Also don't be mislead by units that claim to do it all. By that I mean MQA, DSD, remote volume control, a dozen different filters etc. I suggest looking for a DAC that prioritize the importance of a super power supply and short signal paths with attention paid to noise ingress. DACs that do everything are not able to meet these IMO most important conditions.

vinylvalet
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I had the Sonnet Morpheus. I ended up selling it. A friend came to the same conclusion with his. Plenty of better sounding DACs for the same or less.

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audioman58
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In true reality just look up on line 20 bits is the Actual true bits you can get ,

 anything else are guesstimates higher bit rates ,  mojo audio for-example 

explaines this well. R2R are a bit softer and good for a lot of music but not all

i use the older mastering standard the Multibit chipset which were are laser trimmed resistors on one big dac chip, like the Bricasti M3 I use 

they use the Analog devises 1955 dac chips , all linear power supplies ,and filtering, power regulation ,very well thought out.That being said which I may buy 

is their upper M1, and M1SE ,and higher stil M21,which has the Multibit, and R2R  setup as  well as differential DSD which is in all their dacs , please dedicated streamer board  option which is excellent ,and 2 less wires.

moto_man
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This may be  out of your $5000 price range, but I would highly recommend the MSB Analog DAC and Power Base if you can find one used.  It is a fantastic R2R DAC that throws a great soundstage and a nice detailed but not harsh sound.  I was very happy with mine, and upgraded to the MSB Discrete with Premier Power Base, which is even better at a significant cost.  However, the Analog will give you a lot of that for a fraction of the cost of a new Discrete.

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