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Starting fresh in a small fire place room 3.35m x 3.35m. Speakers require near wall corner placement. Plan to use Roon, Tidal, Quobuz. Have demoed a range of equipment. Considering: Kii3 and Trinnov Amethyst, Naim Uniti Nova and Wilson Tune Tots, Naim Uniti Nova with Jern 14EH (I prefer not to have a sub-woofer), Audio Note Cobra with AN-K/SPe (have not been able to demo, however have read speaker placement and product quality, Leben CS600X, Chord Hugo 2, Chord Hugo M Scaler, Trenner & Friedl Sun or Osiris and Naim. Secondarily, I'd like multi-room audio capability for kitchen etc. Upon initial listening I've been impressed with performance of the Leben with T&F. It sounded open, a substantial soundstage and smooth/rich sound.  I've had an LFD LE VI amp with Harbeth p3esr speakers. I realize this is quite general, however I'd appreciate any guidance or sharing of experience with any of these systems. Thank you
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holmz
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@jerryg123 just 1st order cross overs… and passive.

Regarding the Neats, I have no idea. But there are also speakers like the Dutch-n-Dutch which are powered. And if a powered speaker was chosen then they do not even require a speaker cable.

Whether an amplifier with room correction is used or not also adds some decisions… and these days there is a lot of options that can be used to fix up a room digitally. But the purist approach is often preferred. 

There are so many options, that it should be expected to be a complex process to come up with what is optimal. Which can make it a bit of fun… or daunting.

Again, starting with the speakers are working backwards is a sensible way to approach it. Or if one wants the room correction, then know what a particular amplifier can drive, can also influence the speaker choice… so it can be complex.
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I read no mention of acoustic treatments. You 

have a difficult room and if that hasn't been addressed 

yet, that is the first priority.

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The OP has been quiet, we need to Peng them for an update.

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holmz
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OMG what a horror show! OP you are taking advice on a $27k system from a guy literally using lamp cord, who buys based on inductance because he thinks it all sounds the same anyway. Sorry. This happens. Nothing we can do about it. Free forum, anyone no matter how .... nevermind.     
 

If he gets the Kii-3 then he only needs the lamp cord for running power to speakers ;)
(No external amps, no speaker cables.)

That would not be a bad choice for speakers, and their review just came out a few days ago.

Dutch-n-Dutch also come to mind.

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Be wary of speakers that impress you with "detail" on first listening, as they can become fatiguing over time.  I'm not saying always, but be careful. I find a good test is to play something off Brubeck's "Take Five" record and listen to Paul Desmond's alto sax at a normal listening volume.  If it sounds harsh or in your face, run. That alto falls right into the "annoying" range of frequencies IMO.  People spend a lot of money on "detailed" systems and thousands more trying to back it off with cables, footers, fuses and whatever. 

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