How do you know when a stereo sounds good?


When do you know your system is pleasing to listen to? How do you conclusively prove to yourself that your system sounds good to you? How do you determine that you enjoy listening to music through your stereo? Do you have a suite of measurements that removes all shadow of a doubt that you are getting good sound, sound that you enjoy? Please share.

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If your system costs less than $100,000 you have a ways to go. I'm not joking.

Does labor count?  Newbies time doesn't count as much but after a couple of decades every hour spent listening, evaluating and studying should easily add up to 100K pretty quickly.  Or you could work at your real job and just purchase expensive stuff.  

Both methods are valid but one does not guarantee a better sounding system over the other and neither have anything to do with whether you are pleased with the result.

Ataraxia, Yes

+1 Larsman

Cindyment, Magic fuses, over priced cable, & AC noise isolators will help widen the soundstage

Anyone heard a stereo system they thought sounded bad?

I have. First one was a guy who bought only used Stereophile Class A components. Never in my life saw a more prestigious looking system sound so bad. I don’t mean not good either. I mean bad. His wife when they came over one time snuck up to me and said, "I could listen to this all night!" She was shocked a high end system could actually sound good.

The next one was one of those guys who loves to rant about all cables being overpriced ripoffs and so he had a whole bench devoted to DIY cables. His stereo sounded so bad it actually gave me a headache. Couple times over the years he would buy something like a Tim DiParavincini preamp that was so good it made his system sound pretty good. Not all harsh and etched and analytical but actually like music. But he would "fix" that and the next time it would be headaches all over again.

The third one was mine only it took me a long time to figure it out. This was 1980’s with Kenwood integrated, JBL L7, Magnavox CDB650, lamp cord, patch cords, black freebie rubber power cords. Worse, the thin lamp cord that passed for power cords back then. Only after buying some nice Linaeum speakers and a McCormack DNA1 amp when I hooked the JBL up to sell them it was like an ice pick in my ears.

So people can get used to really bad sound, even convince themselves it is good. It happens. All these guys thought they had the bomb. Me too. For a while. Long, long ago....

As a relative newcomer to audiophile the most important characteristic to me is imaging, starting with strong center image. Next is clarity, I believe neutral tad warm.

I'm working on understanding tone and timbre from midrange up to treble. I enjoy my Yamaha A2080 AVR to R3's and Ryhtmik sub but I believe the treble of the A2080 although clean and clear, may not be butter smooth. Sparkly with edges maybe, but it images well which is my primary attribute for good stereo. 

It seems my desktop electronics may have a slightly smoother treble, it being PC Tidal FLAC > USB input to Schiit Modi 3+ > Emotiva BassX A-100 > LS50 Meta (and I have tried the R3's there also).

 

I believe stereo is ultimately subjective, but how could an audiophile enjoy stereo if it did not begin with some semblance of quality imaging?  It could be cold neutral imaging, to warm side of neutral imaging.  But must have imaging.